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Offline APS

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« on: December 01, 2014, 09:26:08 AM »
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    • Has anyone here had dealings with the Dimond brothers and their so-called Benedictine Monastery?  I once responded to them concerning their claim that Van Noort (a Catholic manual theologian) was a heretic.  I asked them to name a manual theologian that supports their views.  After months discussion the original question "which manual theologian is not a heretic" remained unanswered.  All they were able to produce were ad hominems, Ipse Dixit, and rants.

    It was my understanding that these guys were supposed to be skilled debaters, but when they are really held up to the light they are nothing but empty suits.

    Anyone else some information that would be helpful

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    « Reply #1 on: December 01, 2014, 09:40:04 AM »
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    • So you created a (new) account just to post this?
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    « Reply #2 on: December 01, 2014, 09:41:04 AM »
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    All they were able to produce were ad hominems, Ipse Dixit, and rants.

    It was my understanding that these guys were supposed to be skilled debaters, but when they are really held up to the light they are nothing but empty suits.


    You got them pegged -- ad hominems, "because I said so", etc.

    They are NOT skilled debaters, unless of course you talk to one of their rabid fans :)

    They are schismatic, cutting off huge swaths of Catholics from the Catholic Church, which makes them objectively evil.

    In this time of confusion, when we are all trying to keep the Faith and keep Sanctifying Grace in our souls, I must say that they are to be avoided as dangerous to the Faith.

    Following schismatic, charismatic personalities or other cults is NOT a good way to keep the Catholic Faith during this Crisis.
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    « Reply #3 on: December 01, 2014, 09:50:22 AM »
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    • Yes, Ladislaus I did open an account to post this.  I just find it interesting that these men claim to be theologians yet no manual theologians agree with them.  I have the emails to prove that they cannot answer me.  I can understand how the Feeneyites at the St. Benedict center affiliated with the Novus Ordo have some sort of legitimacy but the others have no leg to stand on.
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    « Reply #4 on: December 01, 2014, 10:20:25 AM »
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    It was my understanding that these guys were supposed to be skilled debaters, but when they are really held up to the light they are nothing but empty suits.

    Anyone else some information that would be helpful

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    « Reply #5 on: December 01, 2014, 10:48:16 AM »
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    • What is a manual theologian?
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    « Reply #6 on: December 01, 2014, 11:37:44 AM »
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    • Genuine Feeneyites at Saint Benedict Center want nothing to do with the Dimonds madmen. The association is insulting and it is a shame that the Dimonds have "adopted" the BOD issue but they have gone so far to even think that Fr. Feeney was in error. Authentic Feeneyism wants no part of sedevacantism. The title of this thread is quite misleading.
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    « Reply #7 on: December 01, 2014, 12:14:34 PM »
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    Has anyone here had dealings with the Dimond brothers and their so-called Benedictine Monastery?  I once responded to them concerning their claim that Van Noort (a Catholic manual theologian) was a heretic.  I asked them to name a manual theologian that supports their views.  After months discussion the original question "which manual theologian is not a heretic" remained unanswered.  All they were able to produce were ad hominems, Ipse Dixit, and rants.

    It was my understanding that these guys were supposed to be skilled debaters, but when they are really held up to the light they are nothing but empty suits.

    Anyone else some information that would be helpful

    Pax Christi
    Michael Tucker


    They're seared demons, probably possessed. I messaged them on this same issue as well, and Bob Dimond just did his usual thing of getting like crazy and rant and hurl condemnations instead of answer my simple questions.

    If you question any of their inventions they will anathematize you, call you bad willed and then never answer again. A real beatdown within an inch of their lives is what these fools need.

    They are obsessed with this BOD issue, it's all they think about.
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    « Reply #8 on: December 01, 2014, 12:21:13 PM »
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    • The Dimond bros do put out entertaining Youtube videos.

     
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    « Reply #9 on: December 01, 2014, 12:36:56 PM »
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    The Dimond bros do put out entertaining Youtube videos.

     


    Which ones are you referring to.
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    « Reply #10 on: December 01, 2014, 12:48:40 PM »
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    The Dimond bros do put out entertaining Youtube videos.

     


    Which ones are you referring to.


    All of them are actually very fun to watch, as for the other issues, well, it is what it is.
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    « Reply #11 on: December 01, 2014, 12:54:21 PM »
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    Yes, Ladislaus I did open an account to post this.


    Have you been lurking here then for some time?
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    « Reply #12 on: December 01, 2014, 12:55:45 PM »
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    What is a manual theologian?


    He's referring to the scholastic so-called "manualists".  Basically a proliferation of these occurred in the years leading up to Vatican II; they're really meant to be textbooks for use in seminaries.
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    « Reply #13 on: December 01, 2014, 12:58:55 PM »
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    • Cantrarella..
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    Is it not true that Father Feeney believed (and probably in good faith) that one could be "Justified", without being Baptised .....?

    Please answer the Question ......
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    « Reply #14 on: December 01, 2014, 01:00:04 PM »
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    What is a manual theologian?


    He's referring to the scholastic so-called "manualists".  Basically a proliferation of these occurred in the years leading up to Vatican II; they're really meant to be textbooks for use in seminaries.


    Yes, but without formal training, the thin line between "manual theologian" and "armchair theologian" is very thin indeed.
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