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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Death Without Baptism!
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2019, 12:33:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: XavierSem on November 10, 2019, 11:20:39 AM
    Yes, the Priest definitely should have baptized him. Even an absolute Baptism could probably be done in this situation, but at least a conditional Baptism definitely should have been performed. The form used could be, "If you are able to be baptized, I baptize you in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit".
    Canon law calls for a conditional baptism, why would you say that “an absolute baptism could probably be done”?
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    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Death Without Baptism!
    « Reply #31 on: November 10, 2019, 12:39:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: XavierSem on November 10, 2019, 11:20:39 AM
    Yes, the Priest definitely should have baptized him. Even an absolute Baptism could probably be done in this situation, but at least a conditional Baptism definitely should have been performed. The form used could be, "If you are able to be baptized, I baptize you in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit".

    I think that the conditional form "If you are able to be baptized ..." is for cases where there's doubt about whether the person is still alive.  I imagine that the form for this scenario would be something like, "If you wish/desire to be baptized ..."
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    Offline Endoplasmic Reticulum

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    Re: Death Without Baptism!
    « Reply #32 on: November 17, 2019, 08:14:19 PM »
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Death Without Baptism!
    « Reply #33 on: November 17, 2019, 08:43:33 PM »
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    • As Father Feeney pointed out, the more popular the notion of desire becomes, the less people actually desire Baptism; instead, they begin to desire the desire for Baptism.  So Baptism of Desire actually undermines Baptism of Desire.
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    Offline B from A

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    Re: Death Without Baptism!
    « Reply #34 on: November 17, 2019, 09:36:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 08, 2019, 08:15:02 PM
    If I were the nurse, I would have kicked the priest out of the room and baptized him myself.
    ^This. 
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