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Feenyite priests
« Reply #120 on: August 17, 2013, 07:23:04 AM »
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  •    The question of the subject of something called Baptism of Desire is really  a very simple one.  

     Note...... Theologians , Doctors , Saints upon themselves, have no authority to make Doctrine.. Being fallable humans, can ,and have made  errors in their writings in the past. They can teach, preach or write on defined dogmatic Dogmas ,or Doctrine, and can be held accountable for their errors.  ,  

     Pope Pius XII, Humani generis (# 21), Aug. 12, 1950:

    “This deposit of faith our Divine Redeemer has given for authentic interpretation not to each of the faithful, not even to theologians, but only to the Teaching Authority of the Church.’”  


    That being the case,  if the “Fat” was eliminated out of the equation ,  (Saints, Doctors, theologians),  what we have left is what the Church teaches.

     The question then becomes……. “Teaches  on .. What “?
    The subject is “Baptism”.  

    We now go to all the Dogmatic Divinely revealed  Church teachings on “Baptism”. No Better place to look ,,Then in The infallible Council of Trent,  or Vatican I

     Walla ,  what do we find.. No mention of the words , “Baptism of Desire”, noda , none, nothing,  to be found  anywhere.

     Surely  the Holy Ghost and the great minds of the Popes would not have missed such an important  item as that ,two times no less, especially when it deals with the saving of Souls ?

     So you see dear folks, when you take out the “He said this”, “she said that”, “This Saint said this”, that Doctor said that”,  we bring it down to the lowest common denominator.  

     Its not what we think the Church says , It is what the Church teaches, and has Defined, Thru its valid vicars that we must believe, and adhere to for our salvation.

     (There were over 500 names of Saints Doctors, and writers who the Church considers ,”Fathers of the Church”.
    Those who wrote or spoke on something called Baptism of Desire were  (2),  on Baptism of Blood (approx. 8).  A far cry from the “Unanimous”, or (500), required.      (read below about unanimous)

     .
    On the Faith from the Vatican Council I  


     There is one thing that must be injected at this point, and that is, Per  Vatican Council I….” On Faith”  


    1.    Likewise I accept sacred scripture

     o    according to that sense which holy mother church held and holds,
        since it is her right to judge of the true sense and interpretation of the holy scriptures;

     o    nor will I ever receive and interpret them except according to the unanimous consent of the fathers.

     I embrace and accept the whole and every part of what was defined and declared by the holy council of Trent concerning original sin and justification.

     There you have it a simple and  complete rundown.  Of why BD is not a teaching of the Church.

     For those who obstantly believe this Theory, IMO are denying a Dogma.  EENS.

     If your not in the Church,   (Baptism is the only way into the Church, )  Your Outside the Church.  "Outside the Church there is No Salvation".   Plain and Simple.......

     God Bless You

    :incense: