I think an apology to Jehanne might be in order.

I admit that I am a sinner.

So you used the wrong terms and now you admit this is really just vulgar or coarse language. Good.

I always meant "profanity/swearing" as vulgar/coarse language because like i said, i have seen and heard them being used interchangeably and to mean the same thing. I never meant swearing/cursing/profanity in their exact meanings.

Why don't you find a moral theologian who addresses this (vulgar language) instead of rashly accusing people of mortal sin? I notice you've possibly downgraded your judgment to a venial sin; I think an apology to Jehanne might be in order.

Yes i accept that after some consideration, i can't say for sure whether it is a mortal or a venial sin and i jumped the gun. It probably isn't mortal but i still think it is very bad.

So sure i apologize for saying it was a clear mortal sin when in reality i'm not even sure if it is mortal.

And i would prefer the words of a Saint and not a moral theologian because like i told you some approved of sodomy within marriage to which, by the way, you did not answer whether you agree with.

Or you could just follow your own advice if you're not all that certain about the whole issue:

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And it is a constant theme in all the spiritual books and revelations i have read that silence is to be observed and that we should even sometimes restrain from good/allowable/profitable speech.

Apparently you didn't get the point.

The point being, that if we will render an account even for idle words, and that we should observe silence and refrain from saying even good things, and that talking for the mere sake of talking, even if you don't say anything bad, is a fault and you will account for that, what do you think you will get for saying something like "bullshit" which is more than a mere idle word and is above all this?

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Or you could just follow your own advice if you're not all that certain about the whole issue:

Quote from: Cathedra

And it is a constant theme in all the spiritual books and revelations i have read that silence is to be observed and that we should even sometimes restrain from good/allowable/profitable speech.

Apparently you didn't get the point.

The point being, that if we will render an account even for idle words, and that we should observe silence and refrain from saying even good things, and that talking for the mere sake of talking, even if you don't say anything bad, is a fault and you will account for that, what do you think you will get for saying something like "bullshit" which is more than a mere idle word and is above all this?

You didn't follow your own advice. Anyway, I asked if you knew of a manualist who deals with the issue of vulgar language. You can use someone other than Jone.

Wow- I just stepped into the wrong thread....  :barf:

Exactly. And it was Mr. "BS is a mortal sin" Cathedra who provided the material.

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Wow- I just stepped into the wrong thread....  :barf:

Exactly. And it was Mr. "BS is a mortal sin" Cathedra who provided the material.

Btw, he got it from a google search and he didn't quote the entire excerpt (and I'm not suggesting he does either.)

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You can use someone other than Jone.

Oh so now i can throw this THEOLOGIAN to the trash? Why? Is what he said not appealing to you? I thought we were to exclusively go by what they say right?

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Quote from: s2srea

Wow- I just stepped into the wrong thread....  :barf:

Exactly. And it was Mr. "BS is a mortal sin" Cathedra who provided the material.

Wait a second, you need a theologian to tell you that vulgarity is sinful, but when i show you a theologian who says rectal intercourse within marriage is OK you disapprove? What's going on here?

Do you want me to scan the page like you do with your other manuals?

You are disgusting and a nasty person. I have no desire to discuss "sins within marriage" nor make any judgment on Jone. I suggested YOU use someone other than Jone because YOU imply you don't trust him. You diverted the discussion to unnatural acts the attempted to discuss it publicly.