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Offline Alcuin

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« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2013, 08:12:10 PM »
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    I have seen this video sometime ago, and also personally know this priest, he believes everything the One, Holy, Catholic Church teaches, unlike those strange Dimond bros.  


    He said a Jєω (one who rejects Christ) could be saved - and you don't have a problem with this?


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    « Reply #31 on: August 11, 2013, 08:13:25 PM »
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    The intention was not to smear.

    I find it shocking that a traditional priest would consider salvation for a non-Catholic a possibility.

    Why do you find it shocking? Most traditional priests believe like he does.


    And what do you think about that?


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    « Reply #32 on: August 11, 2013, 08:16:35 PM »
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    It really wasn't as complex as you say - he basically said that a Jєω could be saved.


    I am not sure that he meant that.  I would like to know exactly what he meant, not some off the cuff statement given to an anonymous caller who most likely caught him off guard, and secretly recorded him.

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    « Reply #33 on: August 11, 2013, 08:16:46 PM »
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    I have seen this video sometime ago, and also personally know this priest, he believes everything the One, Holy, Catholic Church teaches, unlike those strange Dimond bros.  


    He said a Jєω (one who rejects Christ) could be saved - and you don't have a problem with this?


    There are many Jєωs that are in heaven, some are even Saints, they converted and accepted Truth.  


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    « Reply #34 on: August 11, 2013, 08:21:53 PM »
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    I have seen this video sometime ago, and also personally know this priest, he believes everything the One, Holy, Catholic Church teaches, unlike those strange Dimond bros.  


    He said a Jєω (one who rejects Christ) could be saved - and you don't have a problem with this?


    There are many Jєωs that are in heaven, some are even Saints, they converted and accepted Truth.


    They are not Jєωs, they are Catholics, they converted.


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    « Reply #35 on: August 11, 2013, 08:22:49 PM »
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    I have seen this video sometime ago, and also personally know this priest, he believes everything the One, Holy, Catholic Church teaches, unlike those strange Dimond bros.  


    He said a Jєω (one who rejects Christ) could be saved - and you don't have a problem with this?


    There are many Jєωs that are in heaven, some are even Saints, they converted and accepted Truth.


    They are not Jєωs, they are Catholics, they converted.


    Did you ever think that's what he meant?
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    « Reply #36 on: August 11, 2013, 08:28:07 PM »
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    I have seen this video sometime ago, and also personally know this priest, he believes everything the One, Holy, Catholic Church teaches, unlike those strange Dimond bros.  


    He said a Jєω (one who rejects Christ) could be saved - and you don't have a problem with this?


    There are many Jєωs that are in heaven, some are even Saints, they converted and accepted Truth.


    They are not Jєωs, they are Catholics, they converted.


    Did you ever think that's what he meant?


    It certainly doesn't sound like it.

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    « Reply #37 on: August 11, 2013, 08:35:02 PM »
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  • It certainly sounds like the OP has an affinity for the backwards "questions" of Brother Peter, thus an agenda.  FAIL!


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    « Reply #38 on: August 11, 2013, 08:41:34 PM »
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    It really wasn't as complex as you say - he basically said that a Jєω could be saved.


    I am not sure that he meant that.  I would like to know exactly what he meant, not some off the cuff statement given to an anonymous caller who most likely caught him off guard, and secretly recorded him.



    Come on. They all say the same thing.

    He said it's up to God to decide whether someone who dies as a тαℓмυdic Christ-rejecting Jєω can be saved, thereby implying YES, a Christ-rejecting тαℓмυdic Jєω can be saved.

    Everytime this subject is raised they all start talking about deathbed conversions and conversions at death etc.

    That is not the issue.

    The issue is: can someone WHO DIES as a Christ-rejecting Jєω, pagan, Buddhist etc. be saved.

    The dogma emphatically says NO but these people get in all kinds of knots and start beating around the bush and can't give a straight answer and imply that YES, it IS possible that the direct opposite of the dogma may be true.

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    « Reply #39 on: August 11, 2013, 08:42:25 PM »
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  • Okay sure - so he doesn't mean what he said in the phone conversation. Just like in the Reign of Mary they published an article titled "The Salvation of Those Outside the Church" doesn't really mean what you think it means.

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    « Reply #40 on: August 11, 2013, 09:30:15 PM »
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    Okay sure - so he doesn't mean what he said in the phone conversation. Just like in the Reign of Mary they published an article titled "The Salvation of Those Outside the Church" doesn't really mean what you think it means.


    Instead of speculating, why not write to the CMRI and ask them?  
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    « Reply #41 on: August 11, 2013, 09:51:02 PM »
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  • What Ambrose said is fair enough.  I also know this priest and he believes what the Catholic Church teaches.  The Dimonds need to ask for forgiveness and do much penance for the havoc that they have caused, affecting so many souls.

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    « Reply #42 on: August 11, 2013, 10:00:44 PM »
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  • Every human being born has the ability to save their soul, it is the Will of God that all people save their soul.  

    God gives grace somehow to whoever He pleases, and the problem with the Dimond followers is simple this, they are so full of Pride, just because they don't understand how God could possible save a Jєω, they prefer to condemn.  

    Good advice, call CMRI and ask them, or are you afraid you won't like the answer, it might make sense to you and you will have to change for the better.  

    CMRI teaches NO SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CHURCH, but the Church is not exclusive to only the Dimonds.  
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    « Reply #43 on: August 11, 2013, 11:08:53 PM »
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    Instead of speculating, why not write to the CMRI and ask them?  


    How is stating the fact that the CMRI published an article titled "The Salvation of Those Outside the Church" which contradicts the dogma speculating?

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    « Reply #44 on: August 11, 2013, 11:32:46 PM »
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    Instead of speculating, why not write to the CMRI and ask them?  


    How is stating the fact that the CMRI published an article titled "The Salvation of Those Outside the Church" which contradicts the dogma speculating?


    I would have to read the article before commenting.  Do you have a link to it?  I looked on their website but I did not see it.  
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