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Offline Jehanne

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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2013, 02:52:54 PM »
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    No.  I am not a sede and will never accept such a position.


    Thank you for being so honest.

    Now i really can say without any doubt that you are an obstinate and pertinacious bad-willed heretic.

    You have been called out repeatedly because all that you say IS FALSE AND LIES but you are so bad willed that you don't even dare take a look at the evidence.

    Despicable.


    I have already considered the evidence for the sede position (and, for a very short time, even embraced it); however, in my opinion, it creates many more problems than it "solves."  For instance, I have read the CMRI's position on sedevacantism and I do not believe that it is correct.  I am not sure what the above website is going to offer in addition to what the CMRI has already said.  It is, of course, impossible to read everything which everyone has written on this topic.

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    « Reply #16 on: August 11, 2013, 02:54:57 PM »
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  • Well, having first hand knowledge of their deceit, mis-representations, lies, and greed, my opinion of the Dimond brothers could not be lower.  They are fakes and frauds, twisted and evil.  As justice demands wrath, without their contrition, these two will have hell to pay.
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    « Reply #17 on: August 11, 2013, 03:03:47 PM »
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    I'm told by others they don't even follow the rule of St. Benedict regarding diet and alcohol.


    Where did you hear this?


    If I reveal my sources, they will be harassed. I can't give away any other details. You could consider looking into it yourself.

    I believe it may have also been referenced in one of the lawsuits, as well.


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    « Reply #18 on: August 11, 2013, 03:05:01 PM »
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  • Why didn't Peter just ask Fr. Hughes whether his refrigerator was running? How childish.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #19 on: August 11, 2013, 03:11:10 PM »
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    in my opinion, it creates many more problems than it "solves."


    Such as?


    Offline Jehanne

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    « Reply #20 on: August 11, 2013, 03:24:50 PM »
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    in my opinion, it creates many more problems than it "solves."


    Such as?


    I will be happy to discuss that in another thread, but this one is beginning to fragment.

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    « Reply #21 on: August 11, 2013, 03:38:59 PM »
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    in my opinion, it creates many more problems than it "solves."


    Such as?


    I will be happy to discuss that in another thread, but this one is beginning to fragment.


    Very well.

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    « Reply #22 on: August 11, 2013, 04:37:52 PM »
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  • The point of the post was not to attack MHFM - even if what has been said is valid.

    This priest of the CMRI agrees that there are no exceptions to EENS and then waffles on with a bunch of contradictions.



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    « Reply #23 on: August 11, 2013, 05:16:02 PM »
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    The point of the post was not to attack MHFM - even if what has been said is valid.

    This priest of the CMRI agrees that there are no exceptions to EENS and then waffles on with a bunch of contradictions.



    Smear campaign FAIL.

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    « Reply #24 on: August 11, 2013, 06:14:59 PM »
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  • The intention was not to smear.

    I find it shocking that a traditional priest would consider salvation for a non-Catholic a possibility.

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    « Reply #25 on: August 11, 2013, 07:07:54 PM »
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    The intention was not to smear.

    I find it shocking that a traditional priest would consider salvation for a non-Catholic a possibility.


    He was caught off guard by an anonymous caller throwing some complex questions at him.  He told the caller that he would send statements by the theologians to explain it.  That wasn't good enough, if Peter had said ok, let me learn from the theologians, that would be too easy, and would not have the effect of destroying the reputation of this priest.  

    I know this priest and I know that he believes the teaching of the Church including "no salvation outside the Church."  This from the CMRI website:  http://www.cmri.org/02-baptism_blood-desire_quotes.shtml

    If it were me I would have hung up the phone.  
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    « Reply #26 on: August 11, 2013, 07:53:05 PM »
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  • It really wasn't as complex as you say - he basically said that a Jew could be saved.

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    « Reply #27 on: August 11, 2013, 07:54:28 PM »
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  • I have seen this video sometime ago, and also personally know this priest, he believes everything the One, Holy, Catholic Church teaches, unlike those strange Dimond bros.  
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    « Reply #28 on: August 11, 2013, 08:00:11 PM »
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  • The kindness of the CMRI is exhibited once again, in even giving the caller the time of day, much less wasting his precious time answering questions from an idiot.  "Brother Peter" at work, again, playing God and damning everyone else to hell.  The OP has an agenda, whether he will admit it or not.  It is to try to back folks into a corner, making it appear our Catholic priests believe persons outside the Catholic Church can be saved.  They can't be saved!  Period!  End of question!

    We should leave the fact as to whether or not God gave the grace to be saved to someone/anyone on the deathbed, with a last second conversion to the Catholic Church, and salvation to God alone.  No Dimond supporter on the earth is qualified to make this assessment.  Those of us already members of the Catholic Church know enough not to ask the question.  

    Still waiting for the people who support the moronic Dimonds to jump on the evil band-wagon and say Fr. Martin Stepanich was "outside the Church" too.

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    « Reply #29 on: August 11, 2013, 08:00:20 PM »
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    The intention was not to smear.

    I find it shocking that a traditional priest would consider salvation for a non-Catholic a possibility.

    Why do you find it shocking? Most traditional priests believe like he does.
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