But, baptism of desire IS "de fide".

Do you even know what a theological note is?



And then also, implicit vs. explicit BOD is just another opinion within the opinion.

If someone has explicit faith in the Trinity, Redemption, and a desire to enter the Church through baptism, but due to some insane and rare set of circuмstances - through no fault of their own - they are unable to procure water baptism and are literally DYING, one may hold that IF God gives them the grace to believe, repent, and have the efficacious desire to be baptized, that what He gives He gives for a purpose and such a one MAY be saved.

I think your letter probably just confused your relative, or you just made another narnarbobohead. 

My answer to your question is, "Yes, I do". First the Church approves of St. Alphonsus teaching it was "de fide". If it be less than that, there are several notes that are mortal sins. That is the point of my OP.

To flat out reject it as an opinion COULD be considered rash, temerious.

BUT there are REASONS people are confused about this. (hint) IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CRISIS IN THE CHURCH AND CHURCH MEMBERSHIP!

Nobody needs you telling them they will burn in hell because they don't hold BOD at the same level of theological note that either you or St. Alphonsus did. 

This ISN'T EVEN REMOTELY similar to the arguments of the SVs which are made to DEFEND dogmas. 

Why were the BOD opinions developed as a theological opinion in the first place - go look it up.

To flat out reject it as an opinion COULD be considered rash, temerious.

BUT there are REASONS people are confused about this. (hint) IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CRISIS IN THE CHURCH AND CHURCH MEMBERSHIP!

Nobody needs you telling them they will burn in hell because they don't hold BOD at the same level of theological note that either you or St. Alphonsus did.

This ISN'T EVEN REMOTELY similar to the arguments of the SVs which are made to DEFEND dogmas.

Why were the BOD opinions developed as a theological opinion in the first place - go look it up.

Books give objective truth. People won't go to hell....they just need to change their stance accordingly.

A step down from "de fide" is mortal sin, yet THE CHURCH approved of St. Alphonsus saying it was "de fide". Priests since then in the confessional everywhere told penitents it was a mortal sin. This truth changes lives for the good!

A step down from "de fide" is mortal sin, yet THE CHURCH approved of St. Alphonsus saying it was "de fide".

You are allowed to hold it at the lowest level - Common Teaching (+ you are not bound to hold implicit BOD in any sense, and personally I think it is an error) - I POSTED that above.

Just because the Church doesn't censure an opinion, does not mean it is THE opinion of the Church.

You insult me, by creating stupid threads, which should never exist.

If you just did you homework or asked questions instead of shooting your mouth off - that would be better.

Everybody has at least one good thing to share - but for you - this ain't it.

If you keep at this your going to get shredded.

You are NOT up to the task - so just quite while you can.

The truth hurts. It's real.

The truth hurts.

Well, I know it does sport,

But, because you are so hopelessly confused, it is a necessary tonic for your brain-deadness.

I will leave you to better hands - I got stuff to do.

The only ones who promote a BOD are already baptized. If anyone can post proof of an unbaptized person promoting it, please post it.