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Author Topic: Claiming something is not "de fide" still has hellish consequences  (Read 97956 times)

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Offline WorldsAway

Re: Claiming something is not "de fide" still has hellish consequences
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2025, 06:56:45 PM »
Quote from: Freind on December 15, 2025, 06:51:46 PM
Born again, means sanctifyig grace. I am taking about "de fide", not aspects of the teaching.
But that was St. Alphonsus' definition of BOD, right? That it was he held to be "de fide"?
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Offline Freind

Re: Claiming something is not "de fide" still has hellish consequences
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2025, 07:01:01 PM »
Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on December 15, 2025, 06:57:32 PM
Do you even know what a theological note is? :facepalm:




My answer to your question is, "Yes, I do". First the Church approves of St. Alphonsus teaching it was "de fide". If it be less than that, there are several notes that are mortal sins. That is the point of my OP.
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Offline Freind

Re: Claiming something is not "de fide" still has hellish consequences
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2025, 07:15:56 PM »
Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on December 15, 2025, 07:09:25 PM
To flat out reject it as an opinion COULD be considered rash, temerious.

BUT there are REASONS people are confused about this. (hint) IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CRISIS IN THE CHURCH AND CHURCH MEMBERSHIP!

Nobody needs you telling them they will burn in hell because they don't hold BOD at the same level of theological note that either you or St. Alphonsus did.

This ISN'T EVEN REMOTELY similar to the arguments of the SVs which are made to DEFEND dogmas.

Why were the BOD opinions developed as a theological opinion in the first place - go look it up.

Books give objective truth. People won't go to hell....they just need to change their stance accordingly.

A step down from "de fide" is mortal sin, yet THE CHURCH approved of St. Alphonsus saying it was "de fide". Priests since then in the confessional everywhere told penitents it was a mortal sin. This truth changes lives for the good!
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Offline Freind

Re: Claiming something is not "de fide" still has hellish consequences
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2025, 07:16:57 PM »
Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on December 15, 2025, 07:13:15 PM
Freind, believe it or not, I am actually trying to be your friend.

But you are making it hard :fryingpan:

I didn't insult you. Don't shoot the messenger.
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Offline Freind

Re: Claiming something is not "de fide" still has hellish consequences
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2025, 07:27:25 PM »
Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on December 15, 2025, 07:21:50 PM
You insult me, by creating stupid threads, which should never exist.

If you just did you homework or asked questions instead of shooting your mouth off - that would be better.

Everybody has at least one good thing to share - but for you - this ain't it.

If you keep at this your going to get shredded.

You are NOT up to the task - so just quite while you can.

The truth hurts. It's real.
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