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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Church should not pursue conversion of Jews, says B16
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2011, 09:00:11 PM »
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  • Says the man who had not even read Mortalium animos...

    FWIW, could you cite the "absurd" explanation to which you refer, or are you just pulling that out of your ass?
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #31 on: March 11, 2011, 09:13:24 PM »
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  • You pull your entire theology out of your ass and it shows in every post.

    Don't you have a conclave to get to?


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    « Reply #32 on: March 11, 2011, 09:22:53 PM »
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  • John XXII had a private opinion which he made public, against the ordinary magisterium of the Church. You accept him as Pope.

    BXVI gave a private opinion which he made public apparently against the ordinary magisterium of the Church (we haven't seen his words yet). You deny BXVI is Pope ON THIS BASIS as a public heretic.

    In reality you shoot first, then aim and ask questions later. You consistently assume what it is you should be proving and then add arrogance to your ignorance. A deadly combination.

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    Church should not pursue conversion of Jews, says B16
    « Reply #33 on: March 11, 2011, 09:37:08 PM »
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    You deny BXVI is Pope ON THIS BASIS as a public heretic.


    No, I actually don't, but it is pointless to discuss this further with you.  Ciao...

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    In reality you shoot first, then aim and ask questions later.


    Uh, that would describe your method, stevus.  You know very little about what I think or why.  Goodbye.
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    Church should not pursue conversion of Jews, says B16
    « Reply #34 on: March 11, 2011, 09:40:13 PM »
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    Don't you have a conclave to get to?


    This comment proves -- yet again -- you do not even know what I think about the present crisis.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    « Reply #35 on: March 11, 2011, 09:44:11 PM »
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    Obviously you must have read the revised Sede version complete with absurd hair splitting explanation.


    Did I miss your citation of any such "absurd" explanation? Or did you fail to provide it (because there is no such "absurd hair splitting explanation")?
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #36 on: March 11, 2011, 09:48:52 PM »
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  • If you don't deny BXVI is Pope because he is a public heretic, why the Hell DO you deny he is Pope? Because you don't like his red shoes?

    You also apparently have absolutely no ability to discern sarcasm.

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    Church should not pursue conversion of Jews, says B16
    « Reply #37 on: March 11, 2011, 10:00:57 PM »
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  • Quote from: stevusmagnus
    John XXII had a private opinion which he made public, against the ordinary magisterium of the Church. You accept him as Pope.

    BXVI gave a private opinion which he made public apparently against the ordinary magisterium of the Church (we haven't seen his words yet). You deny BXVI is Pope ON THIS BASIS as a public heretic.

    In reality you shoot first, then aim and ask questions later. You consistently assume what it is you should be proving and then add arrogance to your ignorance. A deadly combination.


    Here's some reading to "lull" you to sleep tonight stevus.

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    http://www.forward.com/articles/135991/


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    Church should not pursue conversion of Jews, says B16
    « Reply #38 on: March 11, 2011, 10:03:01 PM »
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  • Quote from: FIRST, stevus
    In reality you shoot first, then aim and ask questions later.


    Quote from: LATER, stevus
    If you don't deny BXVI is Pope because he is a public heretic, why the Hell DO you deny he is Pope? Because you don't like his red shoes?


    BTW, what is the specific gravity of dog turd?
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #39 on: March 11, 2011, 10:04:54 PM »
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  • LM,

    That basically reiterates what we have already heard.

    The Pope is in left field on this issue. There are no two ways about it. He is so far entrenched in his quasi-modernist mindset, up is down and down is up. It's like having a mental disease.

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    « Reply #40 on: March 11, 2011, 10:05:43 PM »
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    BTW, what is the specific gravity of dog turd?


    About the same as your arguments.


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    Church should not pursue conversion of Jews, says B16
    « Reply #41 on: March 11, 2011, 10:12:25 PM »
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    LM,

    That basically reiterates what we have already heard.

    The Pope is in left field on this issue. There are no two ways about it. He is so far entrenched in his quasi-modernist mindset, up is down and down is up. It's like having a mental disease.


    Quasi-modernists mindset,  so to you B16 "resembles" a modernist, not that he is actually one.

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    Church should not pursue conversion of Jews, says B16
    « Reply #42 on: March 11, 2011, 10:13:55 PM »
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    Do you have proof to back up that Ratzinger was on Pius XII's list of heretics?


    There's a docuмent on Tradition in action of Theologians that are suspect of heresy it contains Rahner Ratzinger and some other big wig at the council I'll see if I can dig it up.

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    Church should not pursue conversion of Jews, says B16
    « Reply #43 on: March 11, 2011, 10:18:01 PM »
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    Do you have proof to back up that Ratzinger was on Pius XII's list of heretics?


    There's a docuмent on Tradition in action of Theologians that are suspect of heresy it contains Rahner Ratzinger and some other big wig at the council I'll see if I can dig it up.


    Here we go.

    http://www.traditioninaction.org/ProgessivistDoc/A_001_CondemnationRatinger.htm

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