Author Topic: Church should not pursue conversion of Jews, says B16 (Read 16280 times)

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 11, 2011, 08:47:34 AM »

We also know this:

Young Professor Ratzinger, then just 30 years old, took part in the Council from the inside, aligned with the most radical progressive theologians (the Rahners, de Lubacs, Congars, etc.), those forming the "Rhone Alliance." In his memoirs he seeks to downplay his participation in this "Sodalitium." He writes that "the theological and ecclesial drama of those years [does not] belong in these memoirs".

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #26 on:** March 11, 2011, 09:12:19 AM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

It had not been defined yet, genius :)

So if something has not been dogmatically defined, there can be no heresy and the opinion is valid. Therefore BXVI can spout whatever he'd like unless it directly and unambiguously contradicts a defined dogma, and still be Pope.

Thanks for clarifying, genius!

Caminus · « **Reply #27 on:** March 11, 2011, 09:23:29 AM »

Quote from: CathMomof7

If I say this is heresy, does that make me a sede?

No.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #28 on:** March 11, 2011, 01:38:35 PM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

It had not been defined yet, genius :)

So if something has not been dogmatically defined, there can be no heresy and the opinion is valid...

That does not necessarily follow, but I do not expect you to admit your take on J22 is uninformed/incorrect.

Again, learn what actually happened in J22's case; then comment.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #29 on:** March 11, 2011, 08:52:27 PM »

Already know what happened. Obviously you must have read the revised Sede version complete with absurd hair splitting explanation.