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Offline McCork

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Membership In and Visibility of the Church
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2016, 06:05:37 PM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
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    You don't even have one quote that clearly shows bod and non-bod were simultaneously acceptable in the Catholic mind at any time in history.


    I've produced plenty of such quotes.  Look them up.

    1) you had about 7-8 Church Fathers who explicitly rejected BoD while only one tentatively held it for a time (St. Augustine) but he later forcefully retracted it once he had matured in the faith and had to battle the errors of your mentor Pelagius

    2) even in the late Middle Ages, BoD was a disputed question.  Among the early scholastics, Abelard rejected it while Hugh of St. Victor believed in it.  Peter Lombard, a student of both, asked St. Bernard for advice on the issue.

    As even Benedict XVI later pointed out, the 16th century missionaries did not believe in it.

    Yet you are not interested in the truth but are simply promoting your heretical agenda to undermine the dogma EENS and the necessity of the Sacraments for salvation, so you are not worth addressing.  You are free to use the search function to scour through the hundreds of posts I have made on this subject refuting your heresies.


    It's because you read into things that aren't there. If it were a prominent belief that BOTH were acceptable beliefs, you would have quotes that says precisely that. And, as I said, seeing how the Catechism of Council of Trent taught what it did, and centuries later the Baltimore Catechism, quotes by theologians would be particular common for your claim in view of a catechism teaching ONLY one belief as the truth. They don't exist....because you are wrong.