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Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #140 on: August 25, 2017, 11:32:13 AM »
Quote from: Lover of Truth on August 25, 2017, 10:56:29 AM
You are digging dingus.  It was sarcastic.  My point is Aquinas gets scripture and those who deny his teaching do not.  

You're a liar, and the most arrogant & pride-filled person I've ever encountered.  You were attacking Stubborn for his ignorance of Scripture in maintaining St. Thomas' position ... and forgot that you were at the same time attacking St. Thomas.  There was no sarcasm in your attack against Stubborn -- it was a direct attack.  Sarcasm implies that you didn't really mean to attack Stubborn for his position.
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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #141 on: August 25, 2017, 11:34:06 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on August 25, 2017, 11:32:13 AM
You're a liar, and the most arrogant & pride-filled person I've ever encountered.

You "deny" his teaching by claiming that Rewarder God theory is possible.
You just blab, make false accusations and lie and never show supporting docuŠ¼entation.  You cry at the truth like the devil when sprinkled with holy water.  
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Offline DZ PLEASE

Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #142 on: August 25, 2017, 11:35:26 AM »
Quote from: Lover of Truth on August 25, 2017, 10:56:29 AM
You are digging dingus.  It was sarcastic.  My point is Aquinas gets scripture and those who deny his teaching do not.  
That misplaced "either/or" rearing its plugly head again...

Don't suppose those that Aquinas mentions as having alternatives possibly viable knew anything even though said mentions are tacit acknowledgments that they do.

"Classic"
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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #143 on: August 25, 2017, 11:36:24 AM »
Saint Thomas Aquinas speaks of the need for belief in the Incarnation and the Holy Trinity:
    But when dealing with Baptism of [desire] the Spirit he speaks thusly:

In like manner a man receives the effect of Baptism by the power of the Holy Ghost, not only without Baptism of Water, but also without Baptism of Blood: forasmuch as his heart is moved by the Holy Ghost [1]to believe in and love God and [2] to repent of his sins: wherefore this is also called Baptism of Repentance.

There is my supporting docuŠ¼entation.  Stop crying baby.  :baby: And take the truth like a man.  The issue was not definitively settled.  Suprema would have stated the truth on the issue had it been definitively settled by then.  Those who make this claim have far more credentials than you.  
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Offline DZ PLEASE

Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #144 on: August 25, 2017, 11:37:12 AM »
Quote from: Lover of Truth on August 25, 2017, 10:57:04 AM
You are the garbage man sir.  You trust yourself more than the Fathers, Saints, Doctors and Pope.
"... the Fathers, Saints, Doctors and Pope." meaning LoM
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