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Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2017, 01:27:27 PM »
Quote from: Lover of Truth on August 22, 2017, 11:18:16 AM
Wrong again professional dingbat.  
Feeney believed that one could be justified and not saved.  One who dies justified dies in a state of sanctifying grace and there is no possible eternal abode for him but heaven.  The Feeneyites deny this.  The feeneyites are wrong.  Other lay modernist feeneyites deny Feeney's teach above and claim that Trent itself was wrong . . .  er a . . . taught the opposite of what it taught.  They lose either way.  

You're so mentally incompetent that you don't even know you're wrong.  I understand very well that Father Feeney distinguishes justification vs. salvation.  But your idiotic question is distinguishing justification vs. sanctifying grace.  Two different distinctions, moran.  Father Feeney did not say that someone who was justified was not in a state of sanctifying grace.
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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2017, 01:42:07 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on August 22, 2017, 01:27:27 PM
You're so mentally incompetent that you don't even know you're wrong.  I understand very well that Father Feeney distinguishes justification vs. salvation.  But your idiotic question is distinguishing justification vs. sanctifying grace.  Two different distinctions, moran.  Father Feeney did not say that someone who was justified was not in a state of sanctifying grace.
I admit that I am not as competent at you with the vitriol.  

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It is now: Baptism of Water, or damnation! If you do not desire that Water, you cannot be justified. And if you do not get it, you cannot be saved.
Does that sound familiar to you?
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2017, 02:20:16 PM »
Quote from: Lover of Truth on August 22, 2017, 01:42:07 PM
  
Does that sound familiar to you?

Again, wrong distinction, twit.
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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2017, 02:26:38 PM »
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It is now: Baptism of Water, or damnation! If you do not desire that Water, you cannot be justified. And if you do not get it, you cannot be saved.
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Does that sound familiar to you?

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Offline Stubborn

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Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2017, 02:32:52 PM »
Quote from: Lover of Truth on August 22, 2017, 12:28:34 PM
That is Feeney teaching.  The Dimonds teach the contrary and have to claim that Trent did not teach what it taught to get around it.  Both get around the truth in different ways.  Feeney was wrong.  The Dimonds are wrong.
Well yes, that is  what Fr. Feeney taught. He taught that because that is the actual canon from Trent - what would you expect him to teach, that the sacrament is optional? Of course not.

You asked the question, I gave you Trent's answer, you say Trent is wrong. Same o same o.
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