It is just common sense if one understands that our conversion and our faith is totally a gift from God. He gives us the knowledge and the impulse to do every milimeter of move in His direction. Why would God "justify" a person before baptism and then pull the rug out from him? It is a ridiculous question, and exactly what I've been saying for years.

The Ridiculous Question:

What happens to a person who is "justified" before he is baptized, then dies before baptism?

(The ludicrous response, the response of 99.99% of the false BODers just shows the insanity the question leads to: Jєωs, Mohamedans, Hindus, Buddhists etc. can be saved by their belief in a rewarder god.

and rightly St. Augustine called it the vortex of confusion:

St. Augustine on the Errors of Pelagius said:
If you wish to be a catholic, do not venture to believe, to say, or to teach that “they whom the Lord has predestinated for baptism can be snatched away from his predestination, or die before that has been accomplished in them which the Almighty has predestined.” There is in such a dogma more power than I can tell assigned to chances in opposition to the power of God, by the occurrence of which casualties that which He has predestinated is not permitted to come to pass. It is hardly necessary to spend time or earnest words in cautioning the man who takes up with this error against the absolute vortex of confusion into which it will absorb him, when I shall sufficiently meet the case if I briefly warn the prudent man who is ready to receive correction against the threatening mischief. Now these are your words: “We say that some such method as this must be had recourse to in the case of infants who, being predestinated for baptism, are yet, by the failing of this life, hurried away before they are born again in Christ.” Is it then really true that any who have been predestinated to baptism are forestalled before they come to it by the failing of this life? And could God predestinate anything which He either in His foreknowledge saw would not come to pass, or in ignorance knew not that it could not come to pass, either to the frustration of His purpose or the discredit of His foreknowledge? You see how many weighty remarks might be made on this subject; but I am restrained by the fact of having treated on it a little while ago, so that I content myself with this brief and passing admonition.

Your post above is ludicrous. The question is simple.  Is possible for one to be justified and not be in a state of sanctifying grace?  The answer is simple.  To avoid the response is to fear the answer contradicts the novel feeneyite error. 

Why isn't anyone showing how a justified person is prevented from obtaining the Beatific Vision?  Where are your sources that show that one be justified and at the same time not in a state of sanctifying grace?

Because one can fall from grace in a moment's time.

How can one who dies justified not be saved?

I'm gonna drop the wall of "dialog" for a mite and try to penetrate that Superman hard melon of yours. You wanna get but hurt about it instead of zipping it and thinking, as you are almost certainly not going to do, then THAT is also on you.

There's a saying about how who and what we are speaks first and "loudest"

YOU, mostly because of your methods and unreason, have no credibility.

It doesn't matter WHAT you post, because YOU are posting it.

Who knows? Maybe you have posted the fix for this whole mess, but no one reads it because, like a serial philAnderer, any can and should assume that the Leopard still has spots.

We must amend, even with complete and perfect Mercy incarnate.

You can't just wish and talk your way out of something you acted your way into.

You've mouthed a mountain of checks that you can't cash. Your credit is crap.

My hand is out; sorry for this being public, but my contortions don't extend to breaking my digital hip whilst having a thrombo trying to make my kit do what it really doesn't  want to.

If I'm off grid or not can be indicaTed via votes. Rusty gear is shameful.

out
 

Why isn't anyone showing how a person who dies justified is prevented from obtaining the Beatific Vision?  Where are your sources that show that one be justified and at the same time not in a state of sanctifying grace?

Only one person voted as Feeney would the rest of the feeneyites have to pretend that Trent did not teach that one could be justified by desire for the Sacrament.

You asked the wrong question, moran.  Question is whether someone in a state of sanctifying grace can die in that state and not (eventually, if after Purgatory) attain the Beatific Vision.

You asked the wrong question, moran.  Question is whether someone in a state of sanctifying grace can die in that state and not (eventually, if after Purgatory) attain the Beatific Vision.

Wrong again professional dingbat.  
Feeney believed that one could be justified and not saved.  One who dies justified dies in a state of sanctifying grace and there is no possible eternal abode for him but heaven.  The Feeneyites deny this.  The feeneyites are wrong.  Other lay modernist feeneyites deny Feeney's teach above and claim that Trent itself was wrong . . .  er a . . . taught the opposite of what it taught.  They lose either way.  

Much better said.

Or
Refute the following:

Feeney believed that one could be justified and not saved.  One who dies justified dies in a state of sanctifying grace and there is no possible eternal abode for him but heaven.  The Feeneyites deny this.  The feeneyites are wrong.  Other lay modernist feeneyites deny Feeney's teach above and claim that Trent itself was wrong . . .  er a . . . taught the opposite of what it taught.  They lose either way.  

Another gem from Lover of Sophism…

Only one person voted as Feeney would the rest of the feeneyites have to pretend that Trent did not teach that one could be justified by desire for the Sacrament.