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Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?

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Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #115 on: August 24, 2017, 11:46:59 AM »
"Is that intrinsic, existential, or superfluous necessity?"
St. Paul is teaching that these are required for faith, that they are necessary ... but not that they are sufficient.  You do know the distinction necessary vs. sufficient, right?  St. Thomas did.  That's why he taught otherwise, despite the existence of this particular quote.

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Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #116 on: August 24, 2017, 11:49:15 AM »
"Is that intrinsic, existential, or superfluous necessity?"

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Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #117 on: August 24, 2017, 11:49:44 AM »
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Once again, if we are to look upon this section of Catholic teaching accurately and objectively, we must take the trouble to realize that Our Lord did not die the terrible death of the Cross for the attainment of any paltry or merely accidental objective. He died to save men from sin and from the penalties of sin. He died to save men from servitude to Satan, the leader of all who are turned against God, and to save them from everlasting exclusion from the Beatific Vision. He died to save them from the everlasting penalties of hell. No one can have this gift of salvation apart from Him. Fenton


Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #118 on: August 24, 2017, 11:51:54 AM »
"salvific contact"?

If that isn't a modernist utterance, then I don't know what is.
Maybe the idea is to aggiornamentize modernism so much that it catastrophically collapses into a Catholic singularity again.

Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #119 on: August 24, 2017, 11:53:22 AM »

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It is a further fact that, in the designs of God's providence, men come into salvific contact with Our Lord in His kingdom or His Mystical Body. Such, as a matter of fact, is the basic concept of God's kingdom even here on earth, for it is inherently the community of God's chosen people. The kingdom of God on earth is the social unit or the company of those who are "saved" in the sense that they are removed from the dominion of the prince of this world. It is the society within which Our Lord dwells and over which He presides as the true and invisible Head. And, in God's Own dispensation, this society, in the period of the New Testament, is the Catholic Church. Fenton