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Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #105 on: August 24, 2017, 11:26:47 AM »
Quote from: Lover of Truth on August 24, 2017, 08:10:45 AM
Hebrews 11: 6 - But without faith it is impossible to please God. For he that cometh to God, must [1]]believe that he is, and [2] is a rewarder to them that seek him.

BAM!!!

Did Saint Paul forget to mention the Incarnation and Holy Trinity?  Why did he not consult Stubborn first!

St. Paul is teaching that these are required for faith, that they are necessary ... but not that they are sufficient.  You do know the distinction necessary vs. sufficient, right?  St. Thomas did.  That's why he taught otherwise, despite the existence of this particular quote.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #106 on: August 24, 2017, 11:28:00 AM »
"salvific contact"?

If that isn't a modernist utterance, then I don't know what is.


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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #107 on: August 24, 2017, 11:28:32 AM »

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This is the section of Catholic doctrine which is most sharply opposed to the spirit of the times in which we live. The enunciation of this truth seems always to be designated as "rigorous" or as something worse by those who are animated by the spirit of the world, whether they are openly enemies of the Church or not. Fenton

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #108 on: August 24, 2017, 11:30:58 AM »
Now that he has been put to shame for deriding St. Thomas Aquinas and "knowing better" than St. Thomas, he's going back into spam mode.

He does this when he has mental breakdowns.

Instead of admitting his fault and apologizing for his derision of St. Thomas, he'll ignore this and start spamming.

LoT's obsession with EENS (or, rather, undermining it) is a mental and spiritual illness.  He's spends his every waking breath trying to undermine the dogma EENS.
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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: Can one be Justified and not be in a state of Sanctifying Grace?
« Reply #109 on: August 24, 2017, 11:32:16 AM »

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Yet, if we examine the mentality of this sort of opposition, we find that it is directed ultimately, not against the teachings about the competence and the necessity of the Catholic Church, but actually against the redemptive work of Jesus Christ Our Lord. What is obviously back of objection to this portion of Catholic teaching is the conviction, or at least the claim, that eternal happiness is in some way the native right of all human beings without exception, or at least something within the field of competence of these same human beings. Fenton

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