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Author Topic: Breaking: NOW (M. Derksen) Rejects Invincible Ignorance  (Read 26406 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Breaking: NOW (M. Derksen) Rejects Invincible Ignorance
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2022, 03:01:50 PM »
People who believe in BoD really need to read this --
https://schismatic-home-aloner.com/miraculous-baptisms/

There are many stories here, but the one I was referring to (St. Peter Claver) --
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“When Father Claver arrived at her deathbed, Augustina lay cold to the touch, her body already being prepared for burial.  He prayed at her bedside for one hour, when suddenly the woman sat up, vomited a pool of blood, and declared upon being questioned by those in attendance: ‘I have come from journeying along a long road.  After I had gone a long way down it, I met a white man of great beauty who stood before me and said: Stop!  You can go no further.’… On hearing this, Father Claver cleared the room and prepared to hear her Confession, thinking she was in need of absolution for some sin she may have forgotten.  But in the course of the ritual, St. Peter Claver was inspired to realize that she had never been baptized.  He cut short her confession and declined to give her absolution, calling instead for water with which to baptize her.  Augustina’s master insisted that she could not possibly need baptism since she had been in his employ for twenty years and had never failed to go to Mass, Confession, and Communion all that time.  Nevertheless, Father Claver insisted on baptizing her, after which Augustina died again joyfully and peacefully in the presence of the whole family.”

Re: Breaking: NOW (M. Derksen) Rejects Invincible Ignorance
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2022, 03:34:36 PM »
I wonder if he's begun taking MHFM's materials more honestly after the Cassman debate


Re: Breaking: NOW (M. Derksen) Rejects Invincible Ignorance
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2022, 03:37:31 PM »
I don't understand why this is described as breaking news. Had Mario previously expressed that belief in the Incarnation was not necessary for salvation?

Re: Breaking: NOW (M. Derksen) Rejects Invincible Ignorance
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2022, 03:57:36 PM »
I don't understand why this is described as breaking news. Had Mario previously expressed that belief in the Incarnation was not necessary for salvation?
He's been pretty vocal about BOD and labeling those who defend the true teaching on EENS as "Feeneyites"
https://novusordowatch.org/2018/11/contra-crawford-baptism-of-desire-blood/

Re: Breaking: NOW (M. Derksen) Rejects Invincible Ignorance
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2022, 04:12:06 PM »
He's been pretty vocal about BOD and labeling those who defend the true teaching on EENS as "Feeneyites"
https://novusordowatch.org/2018/11/contra-crawford-baptism-of-desire-blood/
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Is that post supposed to be proof of it? Or the book? I've read the book, the authors never once argue or even suggest that salvation can be had without faith in the Incarnation. And I don't see anything in his post suggesting he thinks salvation can be had without faith in the Incarnation.