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Offline tdrev123

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« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2017, 07:49:03 PM »
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  • Not even the Code of canon law is infallible.  It is addressed to the Latin Church, not the universal church, which is a requirement for infallibility.

    You would be laughed out of any seminary, novas ordo, indult, sspx, MHT, sspv etc. for saying catechisms are all infallible.

    You don't even know basic theology.  

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    « Reply #31 on: March 18, 2017, 07:53:16 PM »
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  • Quote from: tdrev123
    Not even the Code of canon law is infallible.  It is addressed to the Latin Church, not the universal church, which is a requirement for infallibility.


    That's not true.  Something addressed to the Latin Church is considered universal in scope (vs. something addressed to a particular church or region).


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    « Reply #32 on: March 18, 2017, 07:55:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: BumphreyHogart
    All you Feeneyites keep doing is taking potshots and running away. You can't seem to follow and hold a discursive discussion right through.


    Nobody's running away.  We refute your positions and then you claim that no one has addressed your point.  Honestly, you and bosco bore me; you have the combined intellect of a turnip.

    That's Cushingite Tactic #4.

    Offline Ladislaus

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    « Reply #33 on: March 18, 2017, 07:59:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: BumphreyHogart
    When it involves approved Catholic Catechisms, and generally approved books for the clergy & laity, it is part of the ordinary magisterium.


    Yes, those can be parts of the ordinary magisterium.  But the ordinary magisterium is infallible when it's universal.  Baltimore Catechism does not constitute universality by any stretch of the imagination.

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    The Church CANNOT fail to notice within a generation that something is dangerous to their faith.


    False.  This is your stupid dogmatic sedevacantist "negative infallibility" crap again.  There's no divine guarantee that the Church will condemn every error that's floating out there.

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    « Reply #34 on: March 18, 2017, 08:03:13 PM »
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  • Quote from: Gregory I
    Actually the OUM is when all the bishops in all the world with the Pope teach that a doctrine is to be considered revealed by God. It is absolutely NOT the common holding of an opinion.


    THIS ^^^

    That's the Vatican I definition, but these idiot dogmatic sedevacantists effectively extend infallibility to pretty much anything that has any approbation from any ecclesiastical authority whatsoever.  It's absurd and makes infallibility into a laughingstock.

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    If it was you would have to admit the OUM at the end of the first and the beginning of the second millennium taught positive infant damnation in hellfire. After all, it was the common teaching for 800 years after Augustine and the bishops were all consistent in teaching it. So why do you reject it now? Because St. Thomas did? Pshaw! Who is one man to stand against the unanimous opinion of all the saints up to his time!


    Perfect example of the category into which BoD falls.

    Yet these hypocrites refuse to admit that the doctrine held by ALL CATHOLICS WITHOUT A SINGLE EXCEPTION for 1600 YEARS, that explicit belief in Jesus Christ, the Incarnation, and the Holy Trinity are required for salvation they blow off as just some minor opinion and in no way "universal".


     

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