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Offline bodbobii

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BOD from intention of parents of unbaptized infants?
« on: November 12, 2015, 09:40:03 PM »
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  • http://unamsanctamecclesiamcatholicam.blogspot.com/2011/04/infants-who-die-without-sacramental.html

    The 16th-century theologian Cardinal Thomas Cajetan, in his commentary on Thomas' Summa, stated,

        "that children still within the womb of their mother are able to be saved . . . through the sacrament of baptism that is received, not in reality, but in the desire of the parents."

    St. Bernard of Clairvaux, a 12th-century theologian and a Doctor of the Church, wrote to a couple who had suffered a miscarriage,

        “Your faith spoke for this child. Baptism for this child was only delayed by time. Your faith suffices. The waters of your womb — were they not the waters of life for this child?  Look at your tears.  Are they not like the waters of baptism?  Do not fear this.  God’s ability to love is greater than our fears.  Surrender everything to God.”

    A century earlier Jean Gerson, a prominent theologian, stated at the Council of Constance,

        "women great with child, and their husbands, to use their prayers for their infant that is not yet born, that (if it be to die before it come to the grace of baptism with water) the Lord Jesus would vouchsafe to sanctify it beforehand with the baptism of his holy Spirit.  Nay, who would not devoutly hope, that he will not despise the prayer of his humble servants that trust in him?  This consideration  is useful to raise devotion in the parents, and to ease their trouble of mind, if the child die without baptism; forasmuch as all hope is not taken away.  But yet there is, I confess, no certainty exists without a revelation."


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    BOD from intention of parents of unbaptized infants?
    « Reply #1 on: November 12, 2015, 10:03:11 PM »
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  • I remember this fellow.  Diocesan Feeneyite.  Sad he's completely given up the faith.  You might want to throw up a disclaimer in your OP, that the link includes an incredibly irreverent if not outright blasphemous banner.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    BOD from intention of parents of unbaptized infants?
    « Reply #2 on: November 12, 2015, 10:15:52 PM »
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  • Quote from: Mithrandylan
    I remember this fellow.  Diocesan Feeneyite.  Sad he's completely given up the faith.  You might want to throw up a disclaimer in your OP, that the link includes an incredibly irreverent if not outright blasphemous banner.


    The intellect can only handle so much contradiction; the fellow who was in charge of this blog was wrong about many things, but he was sharp.  I'm sure that was instrumental in his undoing.  When pride prevents a man from docile submission to the Church, it's usually only a matter of time.  

    And while claiming atheism, of all things, is inexcusable-- he is at least in a remote sense, another victim of the anti-Church.  Stay away.  
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).