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Re: Bishop Williamson on Feeneyites
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 08:00:16 AM »
What is a "Taylorite"?

If this is a reference to Bishop Patrick Taylor, what did he teach that was distinctive enough to give his followers a group name?

Greg Taylor and his merry band. The Fr. Hewko cult.

Re: Bishop Williamson on Feeneyites
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 08:01:06 AM »
Do you consider that "Feenyism" is a heresy and those hold this view are damned?

No. 


Re: Bishop Williamson on Feeneyites
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 08:02:38 AM »
The only way a BOD works is when God's Providence is completely taken out of the formula, which is to say that with the divine providence, a BOD fails, without it, it works.

With the Divine Providence, God fulfills the desire by providing the sacrament, same as He does for all the baptized. Note the sacrament in and of itself does not reward salvation to anyone.

Without the Divine Providence, the person's presumed faith / contrition / perfect love saves them. Note a BOD in and of itself rewards salvation to all a BODers - this idea is entirely protestant and condemned by the Church.

That's not feeneyite, that plain old Catholicism.


Proving my point here gents.

Are the BODers in the room with you right now?

Is this really affecting your daily life that you are so wound up by it?

Re: Bishop Williamson on Feeneyites
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 08:03:53 AM »
The Canons of the Council of Trent clearly state that the Sacraments are necessary for salvation, that Baptism is necessary for salvation, and that water is the matter for Baptism.

Council of Trent, Session Seven, On The Sacraments in General, Canon IV:
If any one saith, that the sacraments of the New Law are not necessary unto salvation, but superfluous; and that, without them, or without the desire thereof, men obtain of God, through faith alone, the grace of justification;-though all (the sacraments) are not indeed necessary for every individual; let him be anathema.

The following syllogism lays out the necessity of baptism with water for salvation.

Major: If any one saith, that baptism is free, that is, not necessary unto salvation; let him be anathema. (Council of Trent, Session Seven, On Baptism, Canon V)
Minor: If any one saith, that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and, on that account, wrests, to some sort of metaphor, those words of our Lord Jesus Christ; Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost; let him be anathema. (Council of Trent, Session Seven, On Baptism, Canon II)
Conclusion: Baptism with water is necessary for salvation.

No Pope or Ecuмenical Council has defined Baptism of Desire or Baptism of Blood, and they are not universal teachings of the Church.


More phantoms.

Why would I want to deny Trent, you silly little man.


Victimhood complex in full display. 


This is hilarious.

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Re: Bishop Williamson on Feeneyites
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 08:12:04 AM »

Proving my point here gents.

Are the BODers in the room with you right now?

Is this really affecting your daily life that you are so wound up by it?
You're not proving any point. You brought up the subject so apparently you are admitting that a BOD is living rent free in your head. Any more, a BOD is something I only think about when someone else mentions it. Seems you think there is such a thing, thank +Cushing for that.