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Bishop Williamson on Feeneyites
« on: Today at 05:49:28 AM »
"The result is now that the Feeneyites are making a nuisance of themselves in many of our chapels and churches. They're a darn nuisance.

Because, sub-specie boni, under the appearance of good, under the appearance of being strong anti-liberals, here they come and say, outside the church there's no salvation. In the society you don't believe it. We do.

We are Catholics and you're liberals. I mean, come on, come on, come on. But it looks simple. It's simple. No water, no baptism, no church, no salvation.

It's materialistic. It's making, it's making the boundary between the church and the non-church purely materialistic water.

Yes, our Lord attached salvation to water. Yes, he did. But not exclusively so that he never allowed himself an exception. That's foolishness. It's common sense that there could be exceptions.

That in the normal realm of life there could be exceptions. God is not tied to his own sacramentals. He is tied to it but not in such a way that he cannot allow himself any exceptions. That's foolishness.

Foolishness. But the Feeneyites are foolish. But they're a nuisance because they seem to have very Catholic principles and they're more Catholic than the Catholics.

That's the typical story of exaggerating in the opposite direction. If you can't get somebody to, you know, you knock him over once, you knock him over again, he comes back up, you knock him over a third time, now he's getting wise, so he leans over so that when the devil comes, it won't go. What does the devil do? He goes round the back, it's dead easy.

So people that are so strong against the liberals, you just come round the back and make them exaggerate in anti-liberalism and they fall into the opposite error.

But funnily enough, opposite errors have a way of rejoining themselves, which is why the Feeneyites team up again with liberals. Anybody? What kind of liberals are the Feeneyites liable to team up with?

Yes, who are?

What?

More obviously, if they're not, if they're not Masons, they are most of them at least Americanists. And Americanism is of course liberalism again.

And so that these Feeneyites were so strong against liberalism, they're back into Americanism.

There's errors meet up. If you, if you, if you, if you push too far away from one error, you'll come back to it through the back door. It's funny, but that's how it is."




From his classes on the Apocalypse - 1999

Re: Bishop Williamson on Feeneyites
« Reply #1 on: Today at 06:43:29 AM »
The Feeneyite label came into vogue at some stage but it applies to what was understood by most in the Church. It's a little like calling someone a creationist as if its supposed to be insulting.

Should one really apply the criteria of infallablity to everything Mgr Williamson said, and should we consider everthing Mgr Lefebvre said as gospel? We are not Williamsonites, not Lefevbrists, we are Catholic. 



Re: Bishop Williamson on Feeneyites
« Reply #2 on: Today at 06:48:09 AM »
The Feeneyite label came into vogue at some stage but it applies to what was understood by most in the Church. It's a little like calling someone a creationist as if its supposed to be insulting.

Should one really apply the criteria of infallablity to everything Mgr Williamson said, and should we consider everthing Mgr Lefebvre said as gospel? We are not Williamsonites, not Lefevbrists, we are Catholic.

Lets focus on the label, and ignore the substance. Good idea.

Re: Bishop Williamson on Feeneyites
« Reply #3 on: Today at 07:03:33 AM »
I just don't understand why trads get so worked up over BOD. Assuming BOD is true, how often does such a thing
even take place? Probably 1 out of 100,000,000 deaths?
I understand that the principle of it is also tied to advancing the idea of universal salvation that the conciliar church has been promoting
but their feel good religion rarely even bothers with theology anymore.  

Re: Bishop Williamson on Feeneyites
« Reply #4 on: Today at 07:10:26 AM »
I just don't understand why trads get so worked up over BOD. Assuming BOD is true, how often does such a thing
even take place? Probably 1 out of 100,000,000 deaths?
I understand that the principle of it is also tied to advancing the idea of universal salvation that the conciliar church has been promoting
but their feel good religion rarely even bothers with theology anymore. 

Lol. Nice try.

Everyone else is getting worked up except the Feenyites.You're the ones remaining perfectly calm, just being assaulted by the meany BODers. Hurting your feelings. Awww. Do you want a hankie?