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Author Topic: Baptism of Desire is Church Teaching  (Read 57497 times)

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Re: Baptism of Desire is Church Teaching
« Reply #80 on: September 16, 2024, 01:46:01 PM »
Well you're all set then. Obviously you're not baptized so good for you! When you die unbaptized, no worries right? You will be treated as baptized. Hope it works out for you.
That's another thing for your Dimond larpers. You probably won't find one person in your life to whom you would even have to actually apply this doctrine, but hey you are willing to burn half of the sede world if that's the price Dimonds want you to pay.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Baptism of Desire is Church Teaching
« Reply #81 on: September 16, 2024, 01:54:18 PM »
Typical behavior from this dishonest clown.

When refuted on some point (1917 Code of Canon Law) or a direct question is put to him ("Are you asserting that the Roman Martyrology is infallible?"), refuses to answer, but then changes the subject and spams in something different.

This is a clear sign of malice and bad will.  Probably time to ignore this unflushed turd.


Re: Baptism of Desire is Church Teaching
« Reply #82 on: September 16, 2024, 02:15:53 PM »
Gee Lad, you got me again. Your graphic language is despicable. How learned you want to appear, but how foolish you must be if you think you are correct with that foul mouth (which absolutely you are not) and that Our Lord would be happy how you “defend” him against adversaries. 

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Baptism of Desire is Church Teaching
« Reply #83 on: September 16, 2024, 02:23:18 PM »
This guy keeps going DOWN the list, in terms of theological certainty.

First, he strongly implied the Roman Martyrology was infallible (which it isn't).
Then, he quotes canon law (which also isn't infallible).
Now, he's quoting theologians (who are far, far, FAR from infallible).

Just keep throwing spit balls at the wall, dude.  :laugh1: 

That approach doesn't work with dogma/theology.  It may work in political debates, but not with the Faith, which has clearly defined tiers of Truth.  BOD is part of the "non-dogma" tiers.

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Re: Baptism of Desire is Church Teaching
« Reply #84 on: September 16, 2024, 02:35:55 PM »
That's another thing for your Dimond larpers. You probably won't find one person in your life to whom you would even have to actually apply this doctrine, but hey you are willing to burn half of the sede world if that's the price Dimonds want you to pay.
I won't answer for your pals Fred and Bob, but you did not quote V1 correctly. Nor did you quote Pope Pius IX correctly and so on. You have the NO version down pat tho! I corrected it with capital RED letters and put a line through your errors and could go through the rest of your post and do the same......

obliges you to believe by divine and Catholic faith those things: BY DIVINE AND CATHOLIC FAITH ALL THOSE THINGS ARE TO BE BELIEVED WHICH ARE:

1.      Contained in Scripture or AND Tradition, AND

2.      Proposed for belief as divinely revealed by the Church’s authority, either through WHETHER BY HER:

(a) Solemn JUDGEMENT pronouncements (by ecuмenical councils, or popes ex cathedra) OR

(b) IN HER Universal AND ordinary magisterium (teaching of the bishops together with the pope, either in council, or spread throughout the world.)

And on it goes, but you won't want to read the rest because if you could understand it, it disagrees with you.