Author Topic: Baptism of Desire and Blood: The Teaching of the Church (Read 16112 times)

St Magnus · « **Reply #10 on:** January 20, 2014, 07:53:04 PM »

Quote from: St Magnus

Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:5[/size]

it's not that hard to understand

Conspiracy_Factist · « **Reply #11 on:** January 20, 2014, 08:53:40 PM »

has there ever been a poll on this forum to see just how many people believe in bod as St Alpohonsus taught...how many believe you must be baptized ...and how many people believe in implicit faith (heroin bod'ers)

Matto · « **Reply #12 on:** January 20, 2014, 10:59:04 PM »

Quote from: Ambrose

Matto,

This definition is from the 1913 CE:

I don't think that is a good definition at all. It leaves a lot unexplained. It does not even say if those who have baptism of desire have to go to purgatory to make up for their sins. I have heard that some who believe in BOD think that those who have it still have to go to purgatory unlike those who have real baptism but this definition doesn't say anything about that.

Ambrose · « **Reply #13 on:** January 20, 2014, 11:22:55 PM »

Quote from: Matto

Quote from: Ambrose
Matto,

This definition is from the 1913 CE:

I don't think that is a good definition at all. It leaves a lot unexplained. It does not even say if those who have baptism of desire have to go to purgatory to make up for their sins. I have heard that some who believe in BOD think that those who have it still have to go to purgatory unlike those who have real baptism but this definition doesn't say anything about that.

It is a very precise definition. BoD has nothing to do with the doctrine on Purgatory.

Ambrose · « **Reply #14 on:** January 20, 2014, 11:26:01 PM »

Quote from: Stubborn

I forgot to add that this is another post trivializing the sacrament from one who despises the sacraments.

Perhaps one day Ambrose or SJB or LoT will do the Catholic thing and start a thread defending the holy sacraments instituted by Our Holy Lord for the good of our souls and for the hope of our salvation, until then, the anti-Catholic threads preaching against the necessity of the sacraments which, as Trent teaches, are necessary unto salvation, will reign as their lex credendi.

To believe in Catholic Doctrine does not trivialize the sacraments. It keep telling you. But you will not hear it: As a Catholic, you must believe in Baptism of Desire. It is not optional. It is part of the Deposit of Faith, and to deny it is heresy.