Author Topic: Baptism of Desire.. (Read 10998 times)

Daegus · « **Reply #15 on:** August 20, 2011, 10:21:08 AM »

Also, St. Robert Bellarmine has said that geocentrism is de fide but this idea was later contradicted by Pope Benedict XV who said that the Earth may not be the center of the Universe. What is your opinion on this?

Daegus · « **Reply #16 on:** August 20, 2011, 10:28:47 AM »

I hate to quadruple post but I can't edit my posts anymore.

I'd like to know if those who have not received the Sacrament of baptism can be considered inside of the Church? Can we say that those who are "baptised by desire" are apart of the faithful?

Exilenomore · « **Reply #17 on:** August 20, 2011, 10:52:38 AM »

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What is your opinion on this?

You misunderstand the context of the words of the Pope. Read the whole of what he was saying and you will see that he was speaking of a hypothetical situation. He did not say that the situation could actually happen.

Daegus · « **Reply #18 on:** August 20, 2011, 10:57:57 AM »

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Quote from: Daegus
What is your opinion on this?

You misunderstand the context of the words of the Pope.

That doesn't really answer my question though.

St. Robert Bellarmine taught that geocentrism is de fide, and Benedict XV said that the Earth may not be the center of the Universe, which brings forward the possibility that it is wrong to believe geocentrism is de fide. If geocentrism is not de fide, then it's obvious that just because a saint says something is de fide that does not make it so. Do you agree that this is correct?

Exilenomore · « **Reply #19 on:** August 20, 2011, 11:04:36 AM »

You posted before I finished editing my post, so the rest of my answer is in it.

Sometimes, when speaking of an impossible situation, we say: "Even if that could happen, then..." etc. This is the context in which he was speaking. It becomes quite clear when reading the whole passage.