As I've pointed out, Nado, the passive infallibility of the Church doesn't exist.  It's nothing more than the corollary to the "active" infallibility of the Church.  Because the Church's Magisterium is actively infallible, anyone who adheres to the Church's Magisterium is passively infallible (by virtue of the active infallibility).  It's just a concept and has no independent existence outside the active infallibility; the minute rejects the overall Magisterium, presto, "passive infallibility" ceases.

What you are so ineptly trying to say is that BoD is part of the Ordinary Universal Magisterium of the Church.

It's not, but you can't even make the argument correctly.

Plus, for 1600 years, it was never doubted by anyone ever that explicit faith in Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Trinity are necessary for salvation as a necessity of means.  Yet somehow you claim that this believe can be "disputed".

You are of bad will, Nado.

Lets try to stay on topic ...

Baptism of Desire 101  

 Define Baptism of Desire...  

 The theory of men that a man can obtain eternal salvation thru a "(vow, votum, desire, will) for the Sacrament of Baptism, without ever being water Baptised.... and in the later times, without being a member of the Catholic Church.  

Agree or disagree ?.....

The theory of men that a man can obtain eternal salvation thru a "(vow, votum, desire, will) for the Sacrament of Baptism, without ever being water Baptised.... and in the later times, without being a member of the Catholic Church.

 Agree or disagree ?.....

I take it as a...... Disagree.. ??

 

The theory of men that a man can obtain eternal salvation thru a "(vow, votum, desire, will) for the Sacrament of Baptism, without ever being water Baptised.... and in the later times, without being a member of the Catholic Church.  

 Agree or disagree ?.....

Answer the question ,,, Agree or Disagree ??????????

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On topic? The Catechism of the Council of Trent says that an adult can attain salvation without being baptized with water if he was working towards it and expecting to receive the Sacrament, but accidentally died preventing him.

Session and Chpt, and paragraph Of Trent Please....

He is referring to this paragraph:

Catechism of the Council of Trent, “Ordinarily They Are Not Baptized At Once,” p. 179: “But though these things may be thus, nevertheless to this class [or kind] of men [persons], the Church has not been accustomed to give the Sacrament of Baptism at once, but has arranged that it should be deferred to a fixed time.  Nor does this delay have connected with it the danger, as indeed threatens in the case of children, as stated above; for those who are endowed with the use of reason, the design and plan of receiving Baptism, and repentance of a badly led life, would be sufficient to grace and justification, if some unexpected event hinders so that they are unable to be washed by the saving water. On the contrary, this delay is seen to carry with it certain advantages

Of course, first, here says nothing about actually reaching salvation, but only justification. Justification and salvation are two different things. Second, this cannot prove that Baptism of Desire is dogma simply because catechisms are not infallible and the narrative must be understood in light of what the Church has always taught: that there is only one Baptism for the remission of sins, and that of water and nobody can enter Heaven with the stain of original (or actual) sin on their souls which can only be remitted through Baptism (and Penance).

That catechisms are fallible and can contain errors is easy to prove. Even in this Catechism of Trent, there seems to be inconsistencies. Ask Nado if he is able to identify what the error is in the following paragraph, for example:

Catechism of the Council of Trent, Article III, “By the Holy Ghost,” p. 43: “But what surpasses the order of nature and human comprehension is, that as soon as the Blessed Virgin assented to the announcement of the Angel in these words, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it done unto me according to thy word, the most sacred body of Christ was formed, and to it was united a rational soul enjoying the use of reason; and thus in the same instant of time He was perfect God and perfect man. That this was the astonishing and admirable work of the Holy Ghost cannot be doubted; for according to the order of nature the rational soul is united to the body only after a certain lapse of time.”