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SJB · « **Reply #55 on:** June 10, 2010, 08:56:14 AM »

Quote from: Raoul76

Unfortunately, it is more flexible at this time than any of us would like, but I think we can all see that it is crossed by the idea that a false religion can be the means of salvation.

Yes, but some have said that this "flexibility" has led to a denial of EENS, that the Church has led everybody into heresy, which is impossible.

SJB · « **Reply #56 on:** June 10, 2010, 10:31:40 AM »

Quote from: Raoul76

Caminus, don't you think that if BoD were a dogma we'd have at least ONE clear statement from a Pope about it?

You mean a defined dogma, right? There are doctrines less than defined dogma that are not opinions.

Pope Pius IX made this clear in Tuas Libenter.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #57 on:** June 10, 2010, 07:31:13 PM »

Quote from: SJB

You mean a defined dogma, right? There are doctrines less than defined dogma that are not opinions.

BoD is not one of those.

Raoul's quite right about the status quaestionis here regarding BoD. I have problems very similar to nαzιanzen and Chrysostom regarding BoD. See the other thread where I quote them. You can see that the Fathers gave much more importance to the Baptismal character than BoD proponents do. It's much more than a badge of honor but is what grants human beings the faculties capable of sustaining the supernatural virtues.

And I have TREMENDOUS problems with the implicit BoD of the "noble savage". I do consider that Pelagianism.

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