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Offline Stubborn

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Re: AMONG THE RUIN & BOD
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2017, 02:19:51 PM »
Quote from: roscoe on September 22, 2017, 01:53:16 PM
The reason i posted this seems to have gone over everyone's head.

Apparently St Thomas only believed in the possibility of BoD for someone who lived BEFORE THE TIME OF JESUS...

Therefore anyone attempting to cite the Doctor as evidence for BoD existing AD has a nothingburger....

So far LOT(?) has not responded....

:chef:
I understood - but the point that a BOD is not a teaching of the Church and that St. Thomas was only speculating needed to be addressed for the heretic LoL.

Don't expect lol to respond - he has been Fentonized to the maximum.

CANON V.-If any one saith, that baptism is optional, that is, not necessary unto salvation; let him be anathema.
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Offline DZ PLEASE

Re: AMONG THE RUIN & BOD
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2017, 03:14:06 PM »
Quote from: tornpage on September 22, 2017, 02:26:41 PM
Yes, that would be great.
Thirded, otherwise "sayin' stuff is really neat."
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Offline Amakusa

Re: AMONG THE RUIN & BOD
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2017, 03:15:53 PM »
The Council of Trent, several catechisms, theological encyclopedias, and books of dogmatic theology, clearly state that one can get saved through the baptism of water, the baptism of blood or the baptism of desire. It is also a truth of natural reason, and you can additionally find it in the most credible private revelations, such as that of Venerable Anne-Catherine Emmerich or Sister of the Nativity. Period.

The Feeneyite heresy is flourishing in the USA because your cursed country is the motherland of heresies. Here in France, I know only one priest supporting that heresy, and he has been forced to sell his beautiful chapel (a former monastery!) when he fell in heresy, because nearly all his faithful left. France is the eldest daughter of the Church, the center of Catholic tradition, and the faithful are not protestant heretics following their own private opinions.
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Offline DZ PLEASE

Re: AMONG THE RUIN & BOD
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2017, 03:33:04 PM »
How is baptism (sacramental or otherwise) a truth of natural reason?

How about the Trinity then?

Don't answer that. It's heresy.
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Offline roscoe

Re: AMONG THE RUIN & BOD
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2017, 03:34:05 PM »
Quote from: Amakusa on September 22, 2017, 03:15:53 PM
The Council of Trent, several catechisms, theological encyclopedias, and books of dogmatic theology, clearly state that one can get saved through the baptism of water, the baptism of blood or the baptism of desire. It is also a truth of natural reason, and you can additionally find it in the most credible private revelations, such as that of Venerable Anne-Catherine Emmerich or Sister of the Nativity. Period.

The Feeneyite heresy is flourishing in the USA because your cursed country is the motherland of heresies. Here in France, I know only one priest supporting that heresy, and he has been forced to sell his beautiful chapel (a former monastery!) when he fell in heresy, because nearly all his faithful left. France is the eldest daughter of the Church, the center of Catholic tradition, and the faithful are not protestant heretics following their own private opinions.
There is No Such thing as a 'Feeneyite'....
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