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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Against the Heresy of Feeneyism
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2026, 07:05:05 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on January 27, 2026, 12:39:09 AM
Then he finishes it off with some gaslighting, where Feeneyites are Pharsiees who believe in their own "specialness", as he touts HIS own specialness for being not like those Pharisees.  "Thank God I am not like that Pharisee!"  
Regarding this particular thing. Should I not thank God for taking me out of sin and thereby making me 'better' than secular people (because they live in sin). Indeed thank God I'm not like them, but I struggle to see the issue. It's by God's grace I have left my past ways, I need this explained to me some more.
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Offline Gray2023

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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2026, 07:18:38 AM »
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I've not known a one of them who limited BoD to catechumens or the like, but they all claim that non-Catholics can be saved without having been converted before the end of their lives, thereby verbatim contradicting the Council of Florence. 
Ladislaus, I am reading your post.  I have not read the whole thing yet.


I don't believe that any Catholic believes that.  BoD happens with a person who has a sincere desire to become Catholic.  Baptism is just the last step to make it official.   What you just said above is like saying these Catholic priests think a Hindu can be saved without showing any desire for Catholicism and you know that is not what they meant. 
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Offline Gray2023

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Re: Against the Heresy of Feeneyism
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2026, 07:25:46 AM »
Quote from: Russiantrad on January 27, 2026, 05:19:15 AM
If God does send us a holy Pope, that Pope will certainly canonize Father Feeney and establish his feast day on February 18th. :pray:
Father Feeney was the Saint Athanasius of the 20th century, whether you like it or not.
Was St Athanasius disobedient?  I thought saintly people were determined by how obedient they were/are to their authorities.  Please provide a list of disobedient Saints.
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Offline WorldsAway

Re: Against the Heresy of Feeneyism
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2026, 07:38:26 AM »
Quote from: Gray2023 on January 27, 2026, 07:18:38 AM
Quote from Ladislaus

Ladislaus, I am reading your post.  I have not read the whole thing yet.


I don't believe that any Catholic believes that.  BoD happens with a person who has a sincere desire to become Catholic.  Baptism is just the last step to make it official.  What you just said above is like saying these Catholic priests think a Hindu can be saved without showing any desire for Catholicism and you know that is not what they meant.
No, Catholics actually do believe that. They regularly apply "implicit" BOD, or even saying following just the Natural Law suffices, to non-Catholics who do not know of the Faith or the Church. They say Hindus, Muslims, Jews, ect. can be saved while being Hindus, Muslims, etc...that they can be saved in those false religions. Not saved by them, but saved by the Church..but not in the Church. Quotes of Trad clerics saying things like this have been provided ad nauseam over the years...
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Re: Against the Heresy of Feeneyism
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2026, 07:41:00 AM »
Quote from: Gray2023 on January 27, 2026, 07:25:46 AM
Was St Athanasius disobedient?  I thought saintly people were determined by how obedient they were/are to their authorities.  Please provide a list of disobedient Saints.
Please, shut up. Fr. Feeney was obedient to the Truth
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