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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Adults In Limbo
« Reply #85 on: September 24, 2022, 11:28:30 AM »
Quote from: epiphany on September 24, 2022, 11:05:34 AM
Right.  Everyone in heaven must have been baptized, in one of three forms.  But the Church teaches that baptism of desire is a possibility only when baptism of water is not possible.

Church teaches nothing of the sort.  You’re imposing your own theories on the Magisterium.  It’s also heresy to attribute “impossible” to God.  “With God all thing are possible.”
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Offline josefamenendez

Re: Adults In Limbo
« Reply #86 on: September 24, 2022, 11:41:56 AM »
Quote from: epiphany on September 24, 2022, 11:01:22 AM
Who said all unborn children who are aborted go to Heaven?
Why only some aborted babies then ? If somehow they had intellect and reason wouldn’t ALL unbaptised babies desire it? Since they never sinned naturally why would they not desire it? 
just trying to hone the n on the theology, here
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Offline epiphany

Re: Adults In Limbo
« Reply #87 on: September 24, 2022, 12:18:26 PM »
Quote from: josefamenendez on September 24, 2022, 11:41:56 AM
Why only some aborted babies then ? If somehow they had intellect and reason wouldn’t ALL unbaptised babies desire it? Since they never sinned naturally why would they not desire it?
just trying to hone the n on the theology, here
I have no idea why the unborn (not necessarily just aborted babies) wouldn't choose to be baptized, just as I have no idea why born persons choose not to be baptized. 

But the Church dogma states that baptism of water, desire, and blood are possible for all persons.
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Offline josefamenendez

Re: Adults In Limbo
« Reply #88 on: September 24, 2022, 12:27:37 PM »
The act of desire would necessitate intellect and reason . There is too much presumption here to actually take this out of the theorizing category.
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Offline epiphany

Re: Adults In Limbo
« Reply #89 on: September 24, 2022, 12:35:17 PM »
Quote from: josefamenendez on September 24, 2022, 12:27:37 PM
The act of desire would necessitate intellect and reason . There is too much presumption here to actually take this out of the theorizing category.
Not at all.  We do not know the intellect of the unborn, nor their relationship with God.  However, Church dogma states a possibility of three forms of baptism for all persons.  Remember, a person is a person no matter how small.
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