Not only did the Savior command that all nations should enter the Church, but He also decreed the Church to be a means of salvation without which no one can enter the kingdom of eternal glory.

for the truth of the Christian faith stands expressed in the teaching of the Synod of Trent: "Let no one rashly assert that which the Fathers of the Council have placed under anathema, namely, that there are precepts of God impossible for the just to observe. God does not ask the impossible, but by His commands instructs you to do what you are able, to pray for what you are not able, and assists you that you may be able"

The precepts are fulfilled through externals but also through a pure desire.

A drunkard may die in the barroom, but 5 minutes before his death be sorry for his misspent life, have perfect contrition and have the intention of going yo confession.  

From all appearances the man died a sinner, but known to God, the last minute change in this man may brought about his salvation.  

One must desire to enter the Church, this desire fulfills the precept, even if it remains unfulfilled in act.

Therefore, let them who in grave peril are ranged against the Church seriously bear in mind that after "Rome has spoken" they cannot be excused even by reasons of good faith. Certainly, their bond and duty of obedience toward the Church is much graver than that of those who as yet are related to the Church "only by an unconscious desire." Let them realize that they are children of the Church, lovingly nourished by her with the milk of doctrine and the sacraments, and hence, having heard the clear voice of their Mother, they cannot be excused from culpable ignorance, and therefore to them apply without any restriction that principle: submission to the Catholic Church and to the Sovereign Pontiff is required as necessary for salvation.

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One must desire to enter the Church, this desire fulfills the precept, even if it remains unfulfilled in act.

Point taken, Ambrose (and, thank you for your prayers!)  However, such cases, if they occur, are known to the Triune God alone; so why bother even discussing them?

Quote from: Ambrose

One must desire to enter the Church, this desire fulfills the precept, even if it remains unfulfilled in act.

Point taken, Ambrose (and, thank you for your prayers!)  However, such cases, if they occur, are known to the Triune God alone; so why bother even discussing them?

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Quote from: Ambrose

One must desire to enter the Church, this desire fulfills the precept, even if it remains unfulfilled in act.

Point taken, Ambrose (and, thank you for your prayers!)  However, such cases, if they occur, are known to the Triune God alone; so why bother even discussing them?

Many truths of our Faith cannot be known except by Faith, so this truth is not any different.  

The state of grace or of mortal sin cannot be seen by human eyes, yet we are taught by the Church how to enter one state or the other.  

The teaching of the Church on Baptism of Desire demonstrates God's mercy of those who desire Him, but die prior to Baptism.  If someone were to die prior to Baptism, such as Valentinian, it is a great consolation to family and friends know that they deceased relative or friend may still have been saved through Baptism of Desire.

St. Ambrose made this point explicitly in his funeral oration after Valentinian had died unexpectadly prior to his Baptism.

Quote from: Ambrose

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Quote from: Ambrose

One must desire to enter the Church, this desire fulfills the precept, even if it remains unfulfilled in act.

Point taken, Ambrose (and, thank you for your prayers!)  However, such cases, if they occur, are known to the Triune God alone; so why bother even discussing them?

Many truths of our Faith cannot be known except by Faith, so this truth is not any different.  

The state of grace or of mortal sin cannot be seen by human eyes, yet we are taught by the Church how to enter one state or the other.  

The teaching of the Church on Baptism of Desire demonstrates God's mercy of those who desire Him, but die prior to Baptism.  If someone were to die prior to Baptism, such as Valentinian, it is a great consolation to family and friends know that they deceased relative or friend may still have been saved through Baptism of Desire.

St. Ambrose made this point explicitly in his funeral oration after Valentinian had died unexpectadly prior to his Baptism.

Point taken; however, if we can have certainty in someone's explicit desire for Baptism, can not we also have certainty in someone's explicit non-desire for Baptism?  And, for the latter category of individuals (those who have died, at least) that they are, in fact, in eternal Hell?

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Quote from: Ambrose

One must desire to enter the Church, this desire fulfills the precept, even if it remains unfulfilled in act.

Point taken, Ambrose (and, thank you for your prayers!)  However, such cases, if they occur, are known to the Triune God alone; so why bother even discussing them?

Because they are driven by modernist philanthropic sentimentality in which the salvation of non-Catholics must be a known de-facto, this is, a visible exception to the thrice defined dogma of EENS, at expense of God's Law.

They feel so strongly about this, in the pluralistic society we live in, that they feel the constant need to reiterate and promote it to all who wants to hear, even the enemies of the Catholic Church, who are delighted to learn that there is really no need to explicitly belong to the Catholic Church for salvation anymore, that they can still be saved in their false religions because the Catholic dogmas of salvation have been upgraded to be in harmony with the world.  Modernists have taken great care to spread globally this misinformation, giving the impression to the world that the Church has changed when She cannot.