Author Topic: Windswept House (Read 2753 times)

SoldierOfChrist · « **Reply #5 on:** July 23, 2013, 02:25:18 AM »

Quote from: StCeciliasGirl

Yes, wow: I've just been stuck on this book, along with the Who's Who from traditio.com, and looking up these now-dead dudes. I haven't gotten very far, 3 more pages, due to the research, but I see MM puts in some still faithful characters alongside the Satan-spawn.

(I really should go back and read what happened to Agnes, but I half-fear I'd forget that vengeance is the Lord's.)

But before I go further, while MM hasn't yet SAID Paul VI was a willing participant, I'm getting an impression that MM is tip-toeing all around the obvious. —or is it possible that someone mind-controlled Paul VI, or that Paul VI was really a retard? (Nah, he dressed too well to be a retard.) —I can't figure Paul VI out; I try, and know Ven. Pius XII didn't seem too fond of Montini, but Montini went from bottom to Pope within a few years of Pius XII's passing. Paul VI also seemed to have a love affair with Bugnini (well, rhetorical love affair ...although Paul VI was accused of having a gαy lover once) (EWW!)

But nobody writes clearly about Paul VI and Bugnini. It was so far before my time I can't imagine how all this went down, except I know my g-ma was questioning everything well before Paul VI's "I'm the devil" statement. (Oops: I mean his "smoke of satan" statement). Before my time. And my parents wouldn't let g-ma talk about Church matters, but she left her estate to the SSPX. G-ma was serious about this stuff. (I wish I would have asked her more before she passed.)

I've also spent time looking up more on MM himself; he seems legit from what I've read, but it's the hearing (YouTube) that really makes him seem forthright. Anyone know what MM thought of BXVI? (Ratzinger)?

I'm actually about to start Windswept House. I read Vatican first, because I thought it would give me a more comprehensive view of the narrative. Vatican deals quite a lot with Paul VI, calling him Papa DaBrescia. Bugnini he calls Sugnini. I don't gather that MM was a fan of BXVI. The few times that he mentioned him in interviews, it was to point out the job that he wasn't doing. Of course, he didn't know that he would become pope, and he probably would have talked more about him if he had the benefit of future knowledge.

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #6 on:** July 23, 2013, 04:52:24 AM »

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I'm actually about to start Windswept House. I read Vatican first, because I thought it would give me a more comprehensive view of the narrative. Vatican deals quite a lot with Paul VI, calling him Papa DaBrescia. Bugnini he calls Sugnini. I don't gather that MM was a fan of BXVI. The few times that he mentioned him in interviews, it was to point out the job that he wasn't doing. Of course, he didn't know that he would become pope, and he probably would have talked more about him if he had the benefit of future knowledge.

Oh man, I picked up the wrong order of the books then!

I've semi-skipped the intro (black mass) of Windswept, but one character from that time period is figuring into JPI and JPII, Cardinal Villot's protege, Cardinal Casaroli:

(I can't get the pic smaller; sorry)

He looks like the walking dead! Srsly: like John XXIII standing up and walking around St. Peter's! But anyway, this Casaroli card has some POVs about (dead in Windswept) Villot's "big plan" — I can sort of tell I missed a book (The Vatican; thanks for filling me in!)

But I got sidetracked looking up these dudes, which didn't do a lot of good. I found the "Paul VI imposter" pictures and cօռspιʀαcιҽs (the site is Ch 11 of 'The Broken Cross'; could be protestant afaik since the author just explains many Paul VI theories). MM makes Casaroli out to be the protege who wasn't prepared for the genius of JP2, but it's early; MM might go in a different direction yet.

(That the Nat. Cat. Distorter really played up Casaroli as a saint a few years back makes me think he could definitely be a bad guy, though.)

I'm only up to pg 45 still (making lots of notes in the margins), but one thing I'm a little cautious of is what appears to be some JP2-love. I have a hard time with some of JP2's actions, which MM appears to be trying to explain away as some brilliant plot to counter the Satanists. (I think JP2 was a legit claimant to St. Peter's Chair, but drop-kicked the ball). I guess the idea of JP2 counter-striking the Satanists is pretty cool, but I can't see any "glory" in a Pope "giving up" on restoring the traditional Church, if in fact JP2 yearned for the trad Church but knew it was "lost".

Again, only on pg 45; maybe MM isn't really a huge JP2 supporter. (As for Paul VI, I have a working theory that he was bipolar. Seriously bipolar. The ups and downs, the changed statements, the smoke of Satan vs manic episodes... but who knows, maybe he was poisoned. Look at what they did to the remains of Ven. Pope Pius XII! I could see it. —but if Montini wasn't crazy and knew he was poisoned, he should have fallen on the sword to offend God less. Jmho.)

I'm into Windswept. Hope these weren't spoilers for you. (Most people seem to know all this stuff, but the names are new to me.)

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #7 on:** July 23, 2013, 06:51:32 AM »

At the end of his life, Fr. Martin was said to have been very close to, if not espousing, sede vacantism. He also was writing a book called, "Primacy: How the Institutionalized Roman Catholic Church Became a Creature of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr." This book was in the hands of an Abbott of a traditional independent monastery, but he died a bit over a year ago, and no one really knows where the text has gone. Also, predictably, two of the brothers, while this Abbott was still barely alive, went and made an agreement with the diocese, and now are a novus ordo monastery. This took place in Alabama. Perhaps someone here who remembers the situation would be able to name the holy soul that Father Martin left this book to, but I can't remember myself.

songbird · « **Reply #8 on:** July 23, 2013, 10:42:14 AM »

My husband read WindSwept House, The Final Conclave. Some books are ok for me to follow but these were not for me. My husband read the books to me at night. And the books kept his interest and he could follow the drama and the connections of the evil. Wind Swept House picks up after you are mid way through and the shocking parts come. You will hit in Wind Swept House, the part where Moscow and the Church shake hands. It is the Church giving themselves over to the devil. "You have no choice,so Russia says to the Church." but we know that infil"traitors were there for a long time and the time was ripe to have the Church taken over.

My Grandmother was known to say at VatII, "there goes the Church!" It did not strike hard with her daughter, my mom. Yet, my grandmother was well advised by what was coming down the tubes. We had a Precious Blood Priest in the family. He kept the family well informed from 1907 - 1944.

Matthew 24 and Chapter 12 of Daniel go hand-n-hand. The Precious Blood, the continual sacrifice will come to an end. Tribulation to take place and we will be tried. We are in remnant. We are getting smaller and smaller.

I do believe that Malichi Martin knew of the 3rd secret. He stated one time that the last apparition that Sr. Lucia saw of 1927(?) was a part of the 3rd secret. The vision was in a chapel where Sr. Lucia was in adoration to the Blessed Sacrament. She saw the crucifix with the full trinity and Our Lady at the right hand of Christ standing at his crucifixion. The words on the left side of the cross; mercies, graces (?) I thought there were 3 words but anyway, you have the picture.

MM was an exorcist, if I am correct. He knew the devils and evils.
Thank God for his books to enlighten us.

I wish I knew what my grandmother knew. But as long as we pray for our loved ones, that is all that matters. They pray for us too which is such a comfort.

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #9 on:** July 25, 2013, 10:37:17 PM »

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I wish I knew what my grandmother knew. But as long as we pray for our loved ones, that is all that matters. They pray for us too which is such a comfort.

Your post rings so true for me. My g-ma was SSPX, but not sure about sede (if you think the Chair is filled, but with a questionable sort, what is that?). I grew up knowing of problems between my family members, but my g-ma (who passed just before 9/11), was always at peace, praying incessantly, even though her rare Mass attendance (huge drive) caused "issues" with her children's families and the in-laws (incl. my mom, just like yours!). Then my Mom passed this year, and I'm following my husband, and we're reading up on stuff. Huge.

NOW, even to Daddy, it looks like g-ma was right. She never pulled us into a corner and whispered things, and my mother found indie priests after our home parish fell (and I do mean, "fell"), but I too WISH I would have asked my g-ma a lot more, as well. She had collected all these books and clippings, had old prayer books; she and her brother, both. And it was ALL auctioned off except pictures. (She was an old g-ma for me: my parents didn't marry until near 40, so I remember only one g-parent, and she was constantly needled about ++Lefebvre and being schismatic or whatever. She did not care, and was very prayerful and at peace. Now I wish I knew her secret. (Well, praying the rosary and trusting in God, but I missed the 60s/70s, and was young in the 80s, so I don't know much.)

We know of parishes listed as Diocesan but are not; we're already "underground", after a fashion. We weren't sure at first, reading an old missae, but it all looked right (esp compared to clown masses and kids dancing on the altar at the large NO mass cathedrals and parishes!) —God's watched over us well, but our priest is in his mid-80s... Scary out there.

So I'm reading everything I can get my hands on. I know I have to be IN the Church, but away from the Conciliar Church, and finding that thin line, much less walking it, is nerve-wracking.

(I'm still enjoying the drama in Windswept, but MM's really making JP2 out to be a saint, which makes me nervous. And the Russia stuff, I haven't gotten there yet, but that makes me nervous, as well, unless MM is going to suggest that JP2 or BXVI pulled off some sort of consecration that we don't know about, maybe explaining some positive-seeming developments in Russia.)

My Mom just passed this year (accident, long agonizing process); my Dad won't talk about Church, just shuts the priests up and takes the Sacraments and pays up.

So I'm doing this study on my own. Since January. I'm finding, (1) there are people are like me, not satisfied with dealing with the Conciliar Church, but unsure what to do, and (2) LOTS of "Jesus is here; Jesus is there" conspiracy theorists that wig me out. (One is like, the Most Holy Family Monastery, but they don't like anyone). I'm sure many are false witnesses, and it's hard to figure out who to trust. That's why I'm being careful with MM, though I'm glad many here seem to think he's legit.

—If JP2 is a saint, oh man do I have some repenting to do

(I never cursed him or anything, but I definitely questioned his actions in my mind. But I honored him as the Pope, because what else can you do? Pope Michael?! But I can't hang with some of JP2's actions. MM is going to have to wind a huge explanation for me to trust that JP2 listened to the Holy Spirit. Because I'm not judging him, but you have to see the fruit, and the fruit is rotten.)