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Traditional Catholic Faith => Art and Literature for Catholics => Topic started by: ajpirc on July 12, 2011, 04:43:05 PM
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California is known for many ugly, modern, Protestant-looking Catholic Cathedrals: Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_Our_Lady_of_the_Angels), Cathedral of Christ the Light (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_Christ_the_Light), etc. One more may be added to that list: Crystal Cathedral (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Cathedral). This Protestant megachurch may be bought by the Diocese of Orange and consecrated as the new Cathedral of Orange. Here's the article:
Article (http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/08/catholic-church-explores-crystal-cathedral-bid/)
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Makes sense a Non Catholic Church for a non Catholic N.O. religion.
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These "Cathedrals" are all probably built by Freemasons and are littered with Masonic imagery like the "church" they built for Padre Pio. They don't even look like churches. They look like mini WTCs.
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this looks good: http://www.amazon.com/Ugly-As-Sin-Churches-Forthright/dp/1928832369
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I don't actually think any of these buildings are ugly. They simply are not fit to be churches. They would make perfectly lovely concert halls.
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I went inside the Crystal Cathedral in 1985. It is a huge monstrosity of a place. When I was there, they opened up the crystal windows and released a flock of doves. Since the NO won't have to put an altar inside, I imagine they won't have to do very much remodeling to the building. By now, it probably has a few of those giant television screens hanging from the ceiling. They might remove those, but who knows.
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CMof7-
I went there about 7 years ago (when in the NO). I wouldn't say it's ugly, but as Sigismund mentioned, definitely not fit for a Catholic Church. I know that on the grounds of the facility, there was a dedication to Bishop Fulton Sheen... :scratchchin:
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I know that on the grounds of the facility, there was a dedication to Bishop Fulton Sheen... :scratchchin:
Ecuмenism
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I know that on the grounds of the facility, there was a dedication to Bishop Fulton Sheen... :scratchchin:
Ecuмenism
Of a sort. I think it was primarily one TV preacher acknowledging the Master Of Them All. :incense: :smile:
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Ecuмenism on whose part? The Protestants' alone? Oh ho ho --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpcVpg8qctQ
For the attention-span-deficient, start at around 3:30, the fireworks begin at around 3:40.
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Ecuмenism on whose part? The Protestants' alone? Oh ho ho --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpcVpg8qctQ
For the attention-span-deficient, start at around 3:30, the fireworks begin at around 3:40.
Thats disgusting, man. I knew Sheen was a joke, a sham, a flim-flam doodah... but that video sealed it.
Thanks for posting, and can everyone watch it for your soul's sake? SHEEN JUST PROMOTED EcuмENISM and then put Antipope John 23 on a pedestal. Doesnt get much more obvious than this... I really hope all the rumors I hear of Sheen repenting of his views on Vatican II on his death bed were true .
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This may not be on topic, but I don't want to start a new thread on this.
Does anybody have any pictures of Holy Name Cathedral in Chicago prior to Vatican II? It looks like it used to be a beautiful church at one time. Now it looks, well, like a Novus Ordo church (of course).
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This is the interior of the Cathedral of the Holy Name as it appeared in
1958.
No hint of any novus ordo activity at this time.
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Those churches look absolutely full of Satanic Vatican II theology on how churches should look like! (not Churches but off-broadway theatres and opera buildings!)
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This is the interior of the Cathedral of the Holy Name as it appeared in
1958.
No hint of any novus ordo activity at this time.
Jaw droppingly beautiful. Look at all those nuns. Wow.
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This is the interior of the Cathedral of the Holy Name as it appeared in
1958.
No hint of any novus ordo activity at this time.
Jaw droppingly beautiful. Look at all those nuns. Wow.
We were all Trads at that time, those of vintage age like me.
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Ecuмenism on whose part? The Protestants' alone? Oh ho ho --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpcVpg8qctQ
For the attention-span-deficient, start at around 3:30, the fireworks begin at around 3:40.
:shocked:
Guess Im gonna need to change my avatar...
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We were all Trads at that time, those of vintage age like me.
Hmm, hmm! Actually we were all Catholics. Trads had not yet been invented. :geezer:
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What happened to ajpirc? His last post was on 8-13-2011.
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This is the interior of the Cathedral of the Holy Name as it appeared in
1958.
No hint of any novus ordo activity at this time.
The downer, the USA flag prominent in Church, where NO secular state flag should fly, let alone the USA Masonic Republic..........
Otherwise, great pic......
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CMof7-
I went there about 7 years ago (when in the NO). I wouldn't say it's ugly, but as Sigismund mentioned, definitely not fit for a Catholic Church. I know that on the grounds of the facility, there was a dedication to Bishop Fulton Sheen... :scratchchin:
Liste nto Sheen toward end of his life, much more fire and brimstone, a lot less friendly....me thinks with age and insight, was seeing what was going on more.......have several talks in few yrs prior to his death, he pulled fewer punches, but still, often had a blind spot at times......
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CMof7-
I went there about 7 years ago (when in the NO). I wouldn't say it's ugly, but as Sigismund mentioned, definitely not fit for a Catholic Church. I know that on the grounds of the facility, there was a dedication to Bishop Fulton Sheen... :scratchchin:
Liste nto Sheen toward end of his life, much more fire and brimstone, a lot less friendly....me thinks with age and insight, was seeing what was going on more.......have several talks in few yrs prior to his death, he pulled fewer punches, but still, often had a blind spot at times......
I spoke to someone who had met Sheen on a public train shortly before his death,
and had a nice conversation with him. She said he was quite regretful of how he
had handled things, and that if he had taken a stronger stand against the growing
popularity of Modernism his life would have been different, and he may not have
lived as long, but he would have done the right thing. Instead, he had tried to keep
the peace, and the enemies of the Church crushed him, by putting him out of
business. It should be a lesson for the SSPX Fellayites who think they can keep the
peace with NewRome by making a "deal."
The Crystal Cathedral has one of the world's great organs in it. Curiously, the organ,
in place is worth about 10% of the purchase price of the property, but the organ,
ironically, has little use for the routine activities that are currently typical of Novus
Ordo cathedrals. The venue could be an excellent one for classical concerts,
because the acoustics are very good, and the organ can literally do anything that
any organ could be expected to do.
I just saw Plácido Domingo at the Hollywood Bowl yesterday, and as to be
expected, the sound quality was rather compromised. His voice and the voice
of the soprano, Ana María Martínez, who sang some things too, were both superb,
of course, as was the L.A. Phil with Dudamel, but the PA system is always less
than one would like to hear there, for the Bowl is utterly DEAD with no acoustics
whatsoever.
I have been in outdoor ampitheaters that have very good acoustics, but their
shape is much different than the Bowl's. And they are much smaller. This same
concert last night would have been far better in the Crystal Cathedral, but the
price of the tickets would have been astronomical. We had average priced tickets
at $34 each, and the Bowl holds 18,000. It was a full house. Do the math.
The concert was scheduled to start at 7:30, but it was more like 7:42 pm. They
had a 15 minute intermission at 8:30 and then came back and kept going until
10:00 pm, when they had to stop, apparently, Bowl policy.
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Just listening to his talk on Discipleship and Judas yesterday, he was very firery on that.....I think toward the end, he was seeing what was going on.....perhaps, in his epxeriences, he did not see the damage first hand, did not have a lot of hands on during last 20+ yrs in a parish as much...SOme people take longer to wake up......
all in all, I think he was one of the good guys, remember, the 60's-early, mid 80's were very confusing times, much more clear and battle lines drawn clearer now........
I still get the newsletter from the Cause of his Canonization.....