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Ending Sentences/Re: Spelling Challenge
« Reply #75 on: December 26, 2018, 09:03:18 AM »

Oho!  Never end a sentence with a preposition.

Here's a challenge for you:  Who can rewrite this sentence:

   I'm sure a few people here can identify who that quote is from.

without ending the sentence with a preposition?

Ah, yes: An overly pedantic rule that was mocked in least 1 famously sarcastic observation:

   "A preposition is a terrible thing to end a sentence with."
   --W.L.S. Churchill [*] (quote attribution from memory, thus possibly incorrect attribution).

When a syntactic structure is awkward, don't preserve that awkwardness by applying a trivial fix--recast the whole sentence or clause!

   I'm sure a few people here can identify
•   the person to whom that quote is attributed.
•   the origin of that quote.
•   the originator of that quote.
•   the source of that quote.
•   the speaker (who's) being quoted.

Where "origin" & "source" could instead be a citation from what might broadly be considered the literature in some field, instead of the name of a person.

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Note *: Churchill is the author, most relevantly herein, of the 4-or-5-volume series A History of the English-Speaking Peoples, altho' his comparably long series on the Second World War might've gained more readers.

Offline jvk

Re: Spelling Challenge
« Reply #76 on: December 26, 2018, 10:52:30 AM »
But sometimes a preposition isn't always a preposition.  Sometimes it's a verb.  In the above sentence, wouldn't "is from" be a verb phrase?


Re: Spelling Challenge
« Reply #77 on: December 26, 2018, 02:56:31 PM »
If I say "he thought it was safe to up the ante" the word UP has become a verb, whereas usually up is a preposition (up the waterpipe) or an adverb (the smoke rose up). It all depends how you use it.

But in the case of "is from" the preposition "from" does not become a verb. It is still a preposition governing the pronoun whom. The verb is simply "is".

Offline jvk

Re: Spelling Challenge
« Reply #78 on: December 26, 2018, 04:03:48 PM »
Well, thank you, Nadir.  Grammar isn't my strong point...but I still try!

Re: Spelling Challenge
« Reply #79 on: December 27, 2018, 11:04:59 PM »
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FR has to depat at 11am
WE have to out of the premises by 12pm

One often sees confusion or feels confusion on this issue of how to label midday. My reasoning tells me that 12 noon is one hour after 11am and so should called 12am, but to be correct and avoid confusion I would say 12am or 12 noon.

It doesn't become pm or afternoon untill after 12am. 12.01pm is one minute after 12am or noon.
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12pm is midnight and 12.01 is am or morning of the next day.
So if the quote is correct you have 13 hours to clear the premises, so no hurry. You could have a cleaning party.