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Ratton: Commentary On Apocalypse
« on: June 04, 2023, 01:58:50 PM »
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  • https://ia800506.us.archive.org/35/items/ApocalypseOfStJohnACommentary/ApocalypseOfStJohnACommentary.pdf

    Has anyone read this book? It has the Imprimatur and Nihil Obstat.

    Any opinions on it?

    I just found it doing a search for Catholic commentaries on the Apocalypse.


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    Re: Ratton: Commentary On Apocalypse
    « Reply #1 on: June 04, 2023, 04:08:57 PM »
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  • Don't know about this one, but the one by Father Sylvester Berry is great! Let up know what you find out.
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    Re: Ratton: Commentary On Apocalypse
    « Reply #2 on: June 07, 2023, 05:53:19 PM »
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  • Don't know about this one, but the one by Father Sylvester Berry is great! Let up know what you find out.

    Thanks for that recommendation, Cera. I have the book but haven't read it. 

    In my recent searches, I found this series posted on the TIA website. Have you seen it? It's very interesting. 

    https://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/g010_Judg-1.htm

    A while back we had a discussion on Kramer's Book of Destiny. Decem was prolific on that thread, and I think you may have commented. I cannot remember, though, what position you took. 

    In any case, TIA takes a very strong stand in favor of us not being in the end Times, but in the Latter Days, a wonderful distinction - and an opinion to which I wholeheartedly subscribe.


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    Re: Ratton: Commentary On Apocalypse
    « Reply #3 on: June 08, 2023, 11:45:00 AM »
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  • TIA takes a very strong stand in favor of us not being in the end Times, but in the Latter Days, a wonderful distinction - and an opinion to which I wholeheartedly subscribe.
    This distinction between these days and the end of time is not original to TIA. The same understanding is in Father Berry's 1921 book called The Apocalypse of St. John. He calls our time the time of the Antichrist, which is not the end times.

    In the 1600s, Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser put forward the Seven Ages of the Church, which makes the same distinction. The work of Holzhauser is explained here by Bishop Williamson.






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    Re: Ratton: Commentary On Apocalypse
    « Reply #4 on: June 08, 2023, 12:46:27 PM »
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  • Great stuff, Cera. I'm a student, and appreciate all resources. I remember listening to BpW's conferences years ago, and enjoyed them very much. As Ratton says in his preface, and I paraphrase, the more time goes on, the more the Apocalypse becomes understandable. It must now be read in light of Vatican II, Fatima inclusive, and one needs good sources to guide thinking. Where does VII fit into the Apocalypse? We have an earth shattering event and no one to teach us authoritatively - part of the chastisement, I'm sure. 


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    Re: Ratton: Commentary On Apocalypse
    « Reply #5 on: June 11, 2023, 03:58:00 PM »
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  • Many of these Chastisement prophecies are false.

    This is a very well docuмented video debunking the Three Days, Great Monarch and more:

    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Ratton: Commentary On Apocalypse
    « Reply #6 on: June 11, 2023, 05:08:47 PM »
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  • Many of these Chastisement prophecies are false.

    This is a very well docuмented video debunking the Three Days, Great Monarch and more:



    I've seen you post this video in many other threads. 

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    Re: Ratton: Commentary On Apocalypse
    « Reply #7 on: June 11, 2023, 05:17:20 PM »
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  • I've seen you post this video in many other threads.


    Actually, I've never posted it before today.

    I posted another series of videos on the topic.

    Have you watched it?

    It's extremely detailed and well docuмented.

    We shouldn't spread lies or false prophecies so people should really do the research.
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Ratton: Commentary On Apocalypse
    « Reply #8 on: June 11, 2023, 05:23:46 PM »
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  • Actually, I've never posted it before today.

    I posted another series of videos on the topic.

    Have you watched it?

    It's extremely detailed and well docuмented.

    We shouldn't spread lies or false prophecies so people should really do the research.

    No I have not watched it, nor shall I.

    Have you not more than once, on other threads, revealed that you do not read very well because of your health, and so post things that you yourself have not thoroughly read? 

    And if you do not thoroughly read what you post, then are you not amply capable of "spreading lies or false prophecies?" How can you know exactly what you are disseminating?




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    Re: Ratton: Commentary On Apocalypse
    « Reply #9 on: June 11, 2023, 05:31:06 PM »
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  • No I have not watched it, nor shall I.

    Have you not more than once, on other threads, revealed that you do not read very well because of your health, and so post things that you yourself have not thoroughly read?

    And if you do not thoroughly read what you post, then are you not amply capable of "spreading lies or false prophecies?" How can you know exactly what you are disseminating?


    The video narrates the evidence from the many books that are being discussed (It's three hours long) which is super helpful for somebody like me.

    Why would you want to believe in lies or spread them, Simeon?

    Why not look at the evidence and then come to your conclusion?

    Why focus on me and my health rather than look at the evidence and discuss that?

    Why not dispute the evidence.  I've asked many people to dispute it because I'd like to hear both sides argued to help me with my discernment.

    I've asked for help with disputing it because I only want to share it if it is true and somebody shows me that it is not true then will gladly stop sharing it and post retractions warning others of that fact.

    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Ratton: Commentary On Apocalypse
    « Reply #10 on: June 11, 2023, 05:40:58 PM »
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  • O Miser, thou art a gaslighter. J'comprends. Au revoir.


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    Re: Ratton: Commentary On Apocalypse
    « Reply #11 on: June 11, 2023, 05:49:32 PM »
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  • I love Apocalypse, but cannot help but mention 2 Thess. 2:3 when St. Paul Says, "Let no man deceive you by any means, for unless there come a revolt first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition,"
    Ne quis vos seducat ullo modo : quoniam nisi venerit discessio primum, et revelatus fuerit homo peccati filius perditionis,

    The Latin for "revolt" is discessio, di cedo,  which seems to mean "to divide the house" and one rare interpretation, "A separation of married persons."  I can't help but think of Vatican II which was really a separation between tradition and modernism.   And according to one of my dictionaries Cicero used the word discessus to describe his banishment from Rome.  Interestingly,  Cicero was stabbed to death by his own student, Herennius; sort of like we Trads have been stabbed by the modernist Catholics.  Cicero was murdered on Dec 7th, but as the story goes, on the day he was murdered a raven (symbol of death) hopped up on his bed and removed the sheet from his face, foretelling his death.   This is my ramble of the day. 

     

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    Re: Ratton: Commentary On Apocalypse
    « Reply #12 on: June 11, 2023, 05:52:22 PM »
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  • O Miser, thou art a gaslighter. J'comprends. Au revoir.


    I'd love to be set straight if somebody would please show me the evidence to contradict the information.

    I only want to know the truth.  Don't you?
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Ratton: Commentary On Apocalypse
    « Reply #13 on: June 11, 2023, 06:53:22 PM »
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  • Many of these Chastisement prophecies are false.

    This is a very well docuмented video debunking the Three Days, Great Monarch and more:

    Don't conflate the Great Chastisement with the Three Days of Darkess. They are entirely different.

    The Great Monarch is another separate issue, and for several decades I've remained unconvinced.
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    Re: Ratton: Commentary On Apocalypse
    « Reply #14 on: June 11, 2023, 08:10:51 PM »
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  • The general history of the Christian church from her birth to her final triumphant state in heaven : chiefly deduced from the Apocalypse of St. John, the Apostle and Evangelist
    by Walmesley, C. (Charles), 1722-1797

    This work also tries to divide up our last 2000 years into the 7 ages/vials/seals/triumphets.

    https://archive.org/details/generalhistory00walm/mode/2up