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Thank you, Decem, for your reply. You are always a gentleman with me, and it is greatly appreciated.

I think you are correct, that there are many prophecies and visions in the Apocalypse that can be applied to Vatican II. I thank you for narrowing things down to Chapter 20, and also for the insights you’ve provided.

Now, I am troubled by the tone and tenor of the forum threads that involve these issues. Clearly we are speaking about matters that pertain to the future, and possibly even contingent or conditional future events. No one knows the future. The events that shall come to pass are not the subject matter of infallible declarations. Yet there is an almost bitter zeal in many posts, even in this thread. People striving against one another, pushing their own predictions of what is going to happen in the future. People getting upset – or so it seems – because they cannot convince others that the future will go down as they hold it will go down.

No matter how many quotes one amasses, and no matter how pristine the sources, we are in the realm of opinion and speculation. In my reading of Ratton thus far, it is clear that Saints, Doctors, churchmen and divines have come to manifold and various opinions about the meaning of the Apocalypse. There are different schools on any number of questions. Nor has the Church ruled on them.

Why then is this a debate? Why a battle? Why a contest? Why more division? Why? Why? Why? In matters of opinion, discussion, yes. But striving in matters of opinion, especially matters pertaining to future events known only to the Mind of God, is against both charity and wisdom. It's unseemly.

Listen to the whole video and you will hear this unreliable sourse cite fiction.

He later discusses how the themes of the Great Monarch and TDD also sometimes appear in works of fiction.  This is interesting because they are being put into the minds of non-Catholics as well.