By the way, Rowling told publicly in an interview, that the entire Potter story "suddenly" was in her head within a second, whilst she drove bus or whatever. So indeed the Potter story is a true afflatus -- just no divine one.

I think there is a lot of "mythology" surrounding popular entertainment. George Lucas speaks of having a single vision, when in fact, the facts show clearly that it was merely a one off film with no major development of story, and in fact, the original trilogy has the plot and basic facts made up as they went along and changed along the way. I think the same is true of Harry Potter.

For Star Wars, originally, Luke and Leia were not siblings and Darth Vader did in fact kill Luke's father. If one watches the original trilogy, one will see that this is the case, just as the new stuff makes up things and pretends it was always like that in the story.

For Harry Potter, I only read the first two books (I think, I know I read the first) but I was around 10 years old, and at the time, I found them so poorly written, I had no desire to read further. When I was 10 years old.

Nobody who writes a single book which is so poorly written, has such a bad plot, and could only been appreciated by those who are not intellectually developed, had the entire story in one's mind before starting, and no demon would stoop that low.

The fact that Catholics are not sure about what movies are safe to watch is another proof that the Conciliar church is false.

The Hierarchy of The Church always watched over the sheep and kept them safe.  Prior to Vatican II, the hierarchy commissioned the Legion of Decency to review movies and protect Catholics.

These days Catholics must protect themselves.  A good resource to use when reviewing movies is to read the Dove Foundation reviews.  They are Protesatant, but you can use them as they docuмent all dangers to morals and occultism in movies.

You can find their movie reviews here:  http://www.dove.org/default1.asp

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The fact that Catholics are not sure about what movies are safe to watch is another proof that the Conciliar church is false.

The Hierarchy of The Church always watched over the sheep and kept them safe.  Prior to Vatican II, the hierarchy commissioned the Legion of Decency to review movies and protect Catholics.

These days Catholics must protect themselves.  A good resource to use when reviewing movies is to read the Dove Foundation reviews.  They are Protesatant, but you can use them as they docuмent all dangers to morals and occultism in movies.

You can find their movie reviews here:  http://www.dove.org/default1.asp

Well if this is true the Catholic Church hierarchy did a pretty poor job since Hollywood became so pro-Communist by the late 1930's that pro-Soviet films were routinely turned out and anti-Communist films couldn't even be made.

Anyway back on topic, the Harry Potter series are not only horrible and stupid but from a political point of view they are very leftist (J.K. Rowling is from the Labour Party, big surprise) and dabbled in paganism.

Which movies do you believe were immoral in the 1930's through the 50's that should have been condemned by the Legion of Decency but were not?

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Which movies do you believe were immoral in the 1930's through the 50's that should have been condemned by the Legion of Decency but were not?

Well let's see here; "Comrade X," "Why We fight" series, "How to Marry a Millionaire," etc. Hell let's face it pretty much every Hollywood movie has been immoral. There was no "good old days" in Hollywood.

I am not saying there were good old days in Hollywood.  What I am saying is that the Hierarchy had a mechanism in place to protect Catholics.  Many Catholics took the pledge to avoid immoral movies, and movies were reviewed by the Legion.  

I have never watched the movies you mentioned.  Since I have not watched them, I do not know the reasons why you believe they should have been condemned by The Legion of Decency.

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Which movies do you believe were immoral in the 1930's through the 50's that should have been condemned by the Legion of Decency but were not?

Well let's see here; "Comrade X," "Why We fight" series, "How to Marry a Millionaire," etc. Hell let's face it pretty much every Hollywood movie has been immoral. There was no "good old days" in Hollywood.

I do not know much about the Legion, however, you are 100% right. There were no good old days, and pre-code films were just as objectionable as any now, and the Code films presented often a very distorted reality.

I do not know about the Legion, but I would not expect any organization to be able to condemn everything worth condemning. These days, with the Internet, it is much easier to get good reviews, rather than relying on a single group to do it.

I also think most films could easily be condemned on moral grounds, and that anyone judging them might be subject to relativity, as many films were edited to gain ratings. Even now, directors will add over the top scenes, just so they can cut them later and get the rating they wanted.

The Production Code in Hollywood was not the same as the Legion of Decency.  The Legion of Decency reviewed movies to protect Catholics against dangers to Faith and morals.  It also urged Catholics to pledge to not see such movies with a formal pledge.

For those who are OK with HP, aren't you fearful of witchcraft and sorcery? I didn't even know the author was a woman until this thread, just the cover alone was enough to know to avoid it. I admire how you all can analyze what the author is up to.

I am not in any way defending the Potter books, but no, I am not in the least afraid of witchcraft and sorcery.  I avoid the Occult completely and trust in the power and providence of God, so I have no need to be.  This is not because I am some sort of spiritual powerhouse, but because God is.  

I suppose that makes sense.

For the record, I have not read the books.  I am somewhat hesitant to pass judgment on books I haven't read.  From what I do know, I would not read them or encourage others to do so.