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Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
« Reply #75 on: February 10, 2022, 07:45:04 PM »
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    • Is nothing sacred anymore? Article from 2021:

    In An Affront To Its Namesake, The Tolkien Society Goes Woke

    https://thefederalist.com/2021/06/18/in-an-affront-to-its-namesake-the-tolkien-society-goes-woke/
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    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #76 on: February 11, 2022, 09:32:17 AM »
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    • I love the Tolkien fans, Amazon/the Tolkien Society are angry because the fans hate this garbage. They said that the fans are racist and homophobes because after the first looks at the series came out, "mean" comments were flying at them. Personally, I believe the Tolkien fandom is the hardest nut to crack in the age of turning franchises woke. 
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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #77 on: February 11, 2022, 10:38:43 AM »
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    • Probably has something to do with all of the right wingers, such as Catholics, perennial Traditionalists, and "white nationalists" who love Tolkien.
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    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #78 on: February 11, 2022, 10:52:39 AM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on February 11, 2022, 10:38:43 AM
    Probably has something to do with all of the right wingers, such as Catholics, perennial Traditionalists, and "white nationalists" who love Tolkien.
    Aka the people that make up 90% of the fandom

    Another thing I noticed the Tolkien fans tend to have that was reflected in Tolkien's works is a love of morals and virtue, even if its natural virtue. People read the books and even when they watch the movies they want to reflect the virtues shown, (i.e. the loyalty of Sam, perseverance of Frodo, repentance of Boromir for his faults, the purity of heart that Faramir possesses)


    Its something the Game of Thrones didn't have, that show threw virtue and morals out the window. Envy, lust, hatred, revenge dominated the storyline. George Martin said he added that stuff to "reflect human nature", "reflecting the tendencies of our heart".

    May I remind you the director said he wants the Amazon series to be the "next Game of Thrones"
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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #79 on: February 11, 2022, 11:01:17 AM »
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    • Quote from: Romulus on February 11, 2022, 10:52:39 AM
    Aka the people that make up 90% of the fandom

    Another thing I noticed the Tolkien fans tend to have that was reflected in Tolkien's works is a love of morals and virtue, even if its natural virtue. People read the books and even when they watch the movies they want to reflect the virtues shown, (i.e. the loyalty of Sam, perseverance of Frodo, repentance of Boromir for his faults, the purity of heart that Faramir possesses)


    Its something the Game of Thrones didn't have, that show threw virtue and morals out the window. Envy, lust, hatred, revenge dominated the storyline. George Martin said he added that stuff to "reflect human nature", "reflecting the tendencies of our heart".

    May I remind you the director said he wants the Amazon series to be the "next Game of Thrones"
    I find it ironic that my sister loves Tolkien but t supports progressive views herself...

    The absolute degeneracy was why I never could get into GoT, even when I was an atheist. Theres something abhorrent on a natural level of glorifying vices.

    I honestly don't think they will go this route with RoP, I believe Bezos meant it as the next big fantasy phenomenon. But the liberal hallmarks are on course to be there. I expect "oppressed" tranny elves or something too.
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    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #80 on: February 11, 2022, 11:07:45 AM »
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    • It was only a matter of time before the woke film makers got hold of Tolkien, and turned his work into something that it wasn't meant to be.

    This often happens after a writer dies, and their work becomes a free-for-all. Christopher Tolkien, the late son of JRR (died in 2020) who managed the Tolkien legacy, wasn't even a fan of the Peter Jackson films, but it may be different for the grandchildren. They may not much mind if their grandfather's writing legacy is not properly portrayed, in a significant way.

    With Agatha Christie's books, for example, the latest British film versions of her books have unfortunately included homo characters and sordid situations which weren't a part of Christie's books. There are examples of other writer's as well.
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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #81 on: February 11, 2022, 11:26:17 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on February 11, 2022, 11:07:45 AM
    It was only a matter of time before the woke film makers got hold of Tolkien, and turned his work into something that it wasn't meant to be.

    This often happens after a writer dies, and their work becomes a free-for-all. Christopher Tolkien, the late son of JRR (died in 2020) who managed the Tolkien legacy, wasn't even a fan of the Peter Jackson films, but it may be different for the grandchildren. They may not much mind if their grandfather's writing legacy is not properly portrayed, in a significant way.

    With Agatha Christie's books, for example, the latest British film versions of her books have unfortunately included homo characters and sordid situations which weren't a part of Christie's books. There are examples of other writer's as well.
    Seems par the course for any big-name entertainment productions these days, sadly.

    Someone in one of the videos I watched on RoP pointed out that Amazon didn't really release ANY information on the series (production started 2017, set to come out SEPTEMBER) until after Chris Tolkien died. I'm sure he's rolling in his grave now. :facepalm:
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    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #82 on: February 11, 2022, 11:43:44 AM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on February 11, 2022, 11:26:17 AM
    Seems par the course for any big-name entertainment productions these days, sadly.

    Someone in one of the videos I watched on RoP pointed out that Amazon didn't really release ANY information on the series (production started 2017, set to come out SEPTEMBER) until after Chris Tolkien died. I'm sure he's rolling in his grave now. :facepalm:

    I agree. 
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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #83 on: February 11, 2022, 12:59:43 PM »
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    • Just an initial thought….

    Strange how we still say rolling in the grave, yet the soul has already departed to one of three destinations.

    “John Brown’s body is mouldering in the grave, but his soul doth burn in Hell!”

    Woke Tolkien defilers should be rounded up and sent to the pits of Utumno.


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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #84 on: February 11, 2022, 01:06:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Kazimierz on February 11, 2022, 12:59:43 PM
    Just an initial thought….

    Strange how we still say rolling in the grave, yet the soul has already departed to one of three destinations.

    “John Brown’s body is mouldering in the grave, but his soul doth burn in Hell!”

    Woke Tolkien defilers should be rounded up and sent to the pits of Utumno.
    :laugh1:

    When I was a dumb little kid, I seriously thought corpses could roll in their graves
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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #85 on: February 11, 2022, 04:50:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on February 11, 2022, 01:06:25 PM
    :laugh1:

    When I was a dumb little kid, I seriously thought corpses could roll in their graves
    They do in movies though. :jester: And apparently dance too. :laugh1:
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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #86 on: February 12, 2022, 07:00:48 PM »
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    • On battle-armored Galadriel: "To give you a little context, I want you to imagine a fully-armored and battle-tested Virgin Mary"

    Yep. This series is from Hell.

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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #87 on: February 12, 2022, 07:21:57 PM »
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    • Some good advice from The Simpsons, shocking as that may seem.... :jester: 

    JUST DONT LOOK!

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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #88 on: February 12, 2022, 07:27:58 PM »
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    • It's like a bad accident. I can't help it
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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #89 on: February 13, 2022, 09:30:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on February 12, 2022, 07:27:58 PM
    It's like a bad accident. I can't help it
    :jester::laugh1::laugh2:  But also :facepalm: :fryingpan: yet Kazicebear will :pray: for you :cowboy:
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