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Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2022, 09:05:27 AM »
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    • Quote from: Romulus on January 27, 2022, 08:55:17 AM
    I'm not defending what he did, all I'm saying is that there were reasons behind the cutting. I love Tom as much as everyone else who read the books.
    I know, I know, no accusations toward you here :jester:
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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #61 on: January 27, 2022, 09:17:01 AM »
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    Cutting out one of the most jolly and carefree Tolkien characters? Some fan. A 20 minute scene would've probably been fine, especially since he felt the need to "flesh out" the Hobbit "trilogy" with a bunch of nonsense that isn't even in Tolkien (Tauriel, white orc, etc).
    If Tom had been included, the 1st LOTR movie wouldn't have sold as many tickets and the trilogy might not have been finished.  Many people aren't LOTR fans, so the movies have to appeal to everyone.  A 20 minute scene of Tom would've bogged the film down and confused many.  A film has to make $, let's not forget.
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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #62 on: January 27, 2022, 11:37:14 AM »
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    • Quote from: Emile on January 26, 2022, 05:52:12 PM
    "That Old Black Magic", Funny! :laugh1::laugh1:

    But sadly "Now imagine trying to turn LOTR and The Hobbit into musicals......" has been done:


    Save us! Oh the humanity, Dwarfdom and Elfdom!
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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #63 on: January 27, 2022, 11:52:30 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on January 26, 2022, 05:34:44 PM
    Are you talking about an audio dramatization of LOTR (i.e. an audio book)?  I heard some of these were made in the 70s/80s but never listened to them.  I would listen if you have links.
    I see that Youtube has pulled down much original Tolkien stuff. I will have to upload content to Dropbox in the next few days and provide links. :cowboy:
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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #64 on: January 27, 2022, 12:20:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Emile on January 26, 2022, 05:52:12 PM
    "That Old Black Magic", Funny! :laugh1::laugh1:

    But sadly "Now imagine trying to turn LOTR and The Hobbit into musicals......" has been done:


    I sent this to my sister, who is a big LOTR fan and musical fan, and her reply was "Clearly they put a lot of work into this and I'm usually a fan of musicals, but that is one adaptation that should never have occurred."
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    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #65 on: January 27, 2022, 06:45:52 PM »
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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #66 on: February 07, 2022, 09:39:09 PM »
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    • Yes. Yes, it probably will be

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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #67 on: February 07, 2022, 09:45:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on January 27, 2022, 12:20:08 PM
    I sent this to my sister, who is a big LOTR fan and musical fan, and her reply was "Clearly they put a lot of work into this and I'm usually a fan of musicals, but that is one adaptation that should never have occurred."
    This made me wonder if anyone had made an operatic version, so far I found this:

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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #68 on: February 07, 2022, 09:51:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Emile on February 07, 2022, 09:45:33 PM
    This made me wonder if anyone had made an operatic version, so far I found this:


    Golly, might as well just go listen to Wagner at that point. :cowboy:

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    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #69 on: February 08, 2022, 10:43:23 AM »
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    • Earlier today I found out that our beloved auther, John Ronald Ruel Tolkien translated the Hail Mary, Our Father and Glory be into elvish. So, yes, you can say the Rosary in elvish.


    Hail Mary:
    Aia María quanta Eruanno
    i Héru aselyë
    aistana elyë imíca nísi
    ar aistana i yávë mónalyo Yésus
    Airë María Eruo ontaril
    á hyamë rámen úcarindor
    sí ar lúmessë ya firuvammë: násië



    Glory Be:
    alcar i Ataren ar i Yondon ar i Airefean
    tambë engë i et...

    Our Father:
    Átaremma i ëa han Eä
    na airë esselya
    aranielya na tuluva
    na carë indómelya
    cemendë tambe Erumandë
    ámen anta síra ilaurëa massamma
    ar ámen apsenë úcaremmar
    sív’ emmë apsenet tien i úcarir emmen
    álamë tulya úsahtienna
    mal ámë etelehta ulcullo: násië


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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #70 on: February 08, 2022, 11:59:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: Romulus on February 08, 2022, 10:43:23 AM
    Earlier today I found out that our beloved auther, John Ronald Ruel Tolkien translated the Hail Mary, Our Father and Glory be into elvish. So, yes, you can say the Rosary in elvish.


    Hail Mary:
    Aia María quanta Eruanno
    i Héru aselyë
    aistana elyë imíca nísi
    ar aistana i yávë mónalyo Yésus
    Airë María Eruo ontaril
    á hyamë rámen úcarindor
    sí ar lúmessë ya firuvammë: násië



    Glory Be:
    alcar i Ataren ar i Yondon ar i Airefean
    tambë engë i et...

    Our Father:
    Átaremma i ëa han Eä
    na airë esselya
    aranielya na tuluva
    na carë indómelya
    cemendë tambe Erumandë
    ámen anta síra ilaurëa massamma
    ar ámen apsenë úcaremmar
    sív’ emmë apsenet tien i úcarir emmen
    álamë tulya úsahtienna
    mal ámë etelehta ulcullo: násië
    Wow. Now I only need to learn how to pronounce Elvish and I can say it on his next birthday :laugh1:
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    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #71 on: February 08, 2022, 12:22:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Romulus on February 08, 2022, 10:43:23 AM
    Earlier today I found out that our beloved auther, John Ronald Ruel Tolkien translated the Hail Mary, Our Father and Glory be into elvish. So, yes, you can say the Rosary in elvish.


    Hail Mary:
    Aia María quanta Eruanno
    i Héru aselyë
    aistana elyë imíca nísi
    ar aistana i yávë mónalyo Yésus
    Airë María Eruo ontaril
    á hyamë rámen úcarindor
    sí ar lúmessë ya firuvammë: násië



    Glory Be:
    alcar i Ataren ar i Yondon ar i Airefean
    tambë engë i et...

    Our Father:
    Átaremma i ëa han Eä
    na airë esselya
    aranielya na tuluva
    na carë indómelya
    cemendë tambe Erumandë
    ámen anta síra ilaurëa massamma
    ar ámen apsenë úcaremmar
    sív’ emmë apsenet tien i úcarir emmen
    álamë tulya úsahtienna
    mal ámë etelehta ulcullo: násië
    Thank you for bringing this up. I had but almost forgotten about these translations.
    Thankfully my Elvish pronunciation isn’t too bad. :cowboy:
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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #72 on: February 09, 2022, 08:58:47 PM »
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    • This channel is a goldmine for people like me who are largely ignorant of Tolkien's lore.







    Also, Glorfindel is just plain awesome.
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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #73 on: February 10, 2022, 05:40:10 PM »
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    • The Rings of Power: woke garbage confirmed. Black elves, black female dwarves, warrior-princess Galadriel. This is going to be shit.

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    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: New Years and LOTR on 4 K
    « Reply #74 on: February 10, 2022, 07:36:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on February 10, 2022, 05:40:10 PM
    The Rings of Power: woke garbage confirmed. Black elves, black female dwarves, warrior-princess Galadriel. This is going to be shit.


    May it die 10000 deaths. 
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