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Offline St Jerome

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« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2016, 02:08:14 PM »
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    I believe it is better for women to not wear makeup but I wonder if it as a sin. If it is then we should never watch any movies because in pretty much every movie the actors wear makeup. I have read quotes from saints that have opposed makeup but I have also read quotes from other saints that it is okay for women to wear makeup under certain conditions.


    The only thing I have read concerning using some kind of make up was in order to hide some deformity and not for pleasure or beauty so to speak. But other than that, I am not sure about anything else.

    I don't want to mention names since I don't know if it was he who said it.

    But what saint or quote otherwise are you referring to? I would like to see that quote because I have never seen anyone approving of makeup -- except perhaps for the exception above. But perhaps we were thinking about the same thing.


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    « Reply #31 on: November 01, 2016, 02:15:16 PM »
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    But what saint or quote otherwise are you referring to?

    I clearly remember one saint saying that it was not a sin for a wife to wear makeup to please her husband. I forget which saint said it but I remember it was a more modern saint. I have read so many quotes from saints and often I remember what was said but forget which saint said it. Sorry.
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    « Reply #32 on: November 02, 2016, 02:04:16 PM »
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  • Yes, many movies on Netflix are bad, but not all of them...

    Here are some that I think are worth watching:

    1. Outcast (Story about a crusader...) --- This is one of my favorites!!!  :-)

    2.  Princess Bride

    3.  Nanny McPhee

    4.  The Water Horse

    5.  The Secret of Moonacre

    6.  A Monster in Paris

    7.  The Little Prince

    8.  Little Boy

    9.  North and South

    10.  The Nut Job
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    « Reply #33 on: November 03, 2016, 07:18:08 AM »
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  • Books, Etc. Contrary to Catholic Doctrine, Not to be Praised (AAS 15-152)

    The Holy Office issued the following Monitum to Ordinaries of places:

    It not infrequently happens that in daily papers or magazines, writers even among those commonly regarded as good Catholics praise, extol, approve certain books, writings, pictures, sculptures, and other such works of literature and art, which are contrary to Catholic doctrine and the Christian spirit, and even sometimes expressly condemned by the Holy See.

    It will easily be seen what grave scandal to the faithful and what harm to faith and morals may be done if the shepherds of souls allow such things to pass unnoticed and uncorrected. Lest this should occur, the Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office, with the approval of His Holiness, Pius XI, deems it opportune to admonish the Ordinaries of places that if they find any writers of this sort among their subjects, and especially among the clergy, secular or regular, the do not fail to take action either by themselves or through the Council of Vigilance, and to take such measures in their regard as they may judge more effective in the Lord.

    AAS 15-152; Holy Office, Monitum, 15 Mar, 1923
    Periodica, 12-33.

    From 'The Canon Law Digest'
    Officially Published Docuмents Affecting the Code of Canon Law
    1917-1933

    'I hold that not only virgins and widows, but also wives and all women without exception, should be admonished that nowise should they deface God's work and fabric, the clay that He has fashioned, with the aid of yellow pigments, black powders or rouge, or by applying any dye that alters the natural features. . . They lay hands on God, when they strive to reform what He has formed. This is an assault on the Divine handiwork, a distortion of the truth. Thou shalt not be able to see God, having no longer the eyes that God made, but those the devil has unmade; with him shalt thou burn on whose account thou art bedecked.'

    St. Cyprian of Carthage, Father of the Church

    'What does God think of spurious beauty, rejecting utterly as He does all falsehood?'

    St. Clement of Alexandria, Father of the Church

    'Moreover, know that just as all mortal sins are very serious, so too a venial sin is made mortal if a human being delights in it with the intention of persevering.

    Wherefore, know that two sins, which I now name to you, are being practiced and that they draw after them other sins that all seem as if venial.

    But because the people delight in them with the intention of persevering, they are therefore made mortal. . .

    The first of the two sins is that the faces of rational human creatures are being painted with the various colors with which insensible images and statues of idols are colored so that to others, these faces may seem more beautiful than I made them.

    The second sin is that the bodies of men and women are being deformed from their natural state by the unseemly forms of clothing that the people are using.'

    Our Lord Jesus Christ, 'The Revelations of St. Bridget of Sweden'

    'To dye oneself with paints in order to have a rosier or a paler complexion is a lying counterfeit.'

    St. Augustine, Father and Doctor of the Church
    Sincerely,

    Shin

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    « Reply #34 on: November 03, 2016, 05:25:16 PM »
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    I like movies that are deep and make you think or at least have well developed characters. I like Amelie, The Lord of the Rings Movies, The Picture of Dorian Gray, I thought Napoleon Dynamite was funny, Pride and Prejudice, Jane Eyre, Little Women... I am not married.


    If this is the kind of movies you watch, that is, evil and totally lascivious movies like "Amelie" who is so filled with lascivious scenes, nudity and sex scenes that it was even a problem for me to read the parental warning on IMDB, then this thread is something you must read, since it is not lawful for you to watch such kind of movies.

    Direct url: http://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=15694.120

    Every film thread makes me shudder since so many people really don't care or understand these things; but understand this, it is not lawful for any person to just watch anything. No it must be moral, and if it is not, one must not watch it (which means essentially that one needs to go without media completely if one wants to be safe; normal television is really a no no and people are crazy if they have one at home or let their children get exposed to lascivious clothing and scenes daily).


    Quote from: Spera in Deo
    Becket - Richard Burton again. (awesome actor)


    I would not recommend becket to anyone much less to children since it contains evil and lascivious scenes. No one must watch this movie uncensored -- if that is even possible. One is not permitted to put oneself or others in occasions of sinning by beholding lascivious scenes just because one are addicted to watching media.

    Read the thread:

    Why the thread "Last movie you saw?" is filled with mortal sins

    Direct url:

    http://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=15694.120


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    « Reply #35 on: November 03, 2016, 05:50:26 PM »
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    I like movies that are deep and make you think or at least have well developed characters. I like Amelie, The Lord of the Rings Movies, The Picture of Dorian Gray, I thought Napoleon Dynamite was funny, Pride and Prejudice, Jane Eyre, Little Women... I am not married.


    If this is the kind of movies you watch, that is, evil and totally lascivious movies like "Amelie" who is so filled with lascivious scenes, nudity and sex scenes that it was even a problem for me to read the parental warning on IMDB, then this thread is something you must read, since it is not lawful for you to watch such kind of movies.


    You can ease your mind--Amelie is not filled with sex scenes or lasciviousness. I would know, I own the movie and have seen it many times. It is a French movie and they are not as shy about certain things as other cultures, but I can promise you that nothing in the movie is done in such a way to evoke sɛҳuąƖ desires. There are a couple scenes I could do without, but again there are no "sex scenes". There are parts where you know that has happened but again nothing was done in such a way to cause sɛҳuąƖ desire. I would not recommend the movie for children but it is fine for adults. I can guarantee you that NO ONE watches this movie to emote sɛҳuąƖ desire.

    Your reading a description of something in the movie and using your imagination to make it something that it actually is not may cause much more.

    I have a very devout traditional Catholic friend who speaks fluent French, serves daily Mass on most days and he loves this movie.


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    « Reply #36 on: November 03, 2016, 06:00:36 PM »
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    Women should avoid using make up, as all the saints teaches and all private revelations teaches. I know people disagree, but then they disagree with all the saints and all private revelations that has spoken on this topic (and there are many).

    I believe it is better for women to not wear makeup but I wonder if it as a sin. If it is then we should never watch any movies because in pretty much every movie the actors wear makeup. I have read quotes from saints that have opposed makeup but I have also read quotes from other saints that it is okay for women to wear makeup under certain conditions. The further you go back in time the more opposed to wearing makeup the saints seemed to be. I almost never watch movies anymore myself, even old ones and ones that I know are safe to watch, because I don't think watching movies will help me achieve my salvation.

    I am not as strict as you are while using the internet. I do not block all images on the internet and only listen to audio on youtube videos. I mostly go to Catholic websites which don't have any sinful images but every once in a while when I am getting secular news I may come across an immodest image. When that happens I look away just like I do when I go out of the house. I have to leave the house almost every day and the immodestly dressed women are everywhere so it is almost impossible to not see them. And on youtube I mostly watch religious videos so it is very rare for there to be any immodesty. But a few times I have seen immodesty in the youtube videos and when that happened I scrolled down so I could not see the video and listened to the rest without seeing the video.


    You shouldn't watch movies because they wear makeup?

    And please do not even lecture about the evils of TV and Movies if you use the internet. There are exponentially more dangers on the internet. And you mention you are on YouTube...lets be serious...how is this any different?? There are bad ads and things that are evil popping up on that.


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    « Reply #37 on: November 03, 2016, 06:01:44 PM »
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    Yes, many movies on Netflix are bad, but not all of them...

    Here are some that I think are worth watching:

    1. Outcast (Story about a crusader...) --- This is one of my favorites!!!  :-)

    2.  Princess Bride

    3.  Nanny McPhee

    4.  The Water Horse

    5.  The Secret of Moonacre

    6.  A Monster in Paris

    7.  The Little Prince

    8.  Little Boy

    9.  North and South

    10.  The Nut Job


    Thank you!


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    « Reply #38 on: November 04, 2016, 07:26:46 AM »
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    Yes, many movies on Netflix are bad, but not all of them...

    Here are some that I think are worth watching:

    1. Outcast (Story about a crusader...) --- This is one of my favorites!!!  :-)

    2.  Princess Bride

    3.  Nanny McPhee

    4.  The Water Horse

    5.  The Secret of Moonacre

    6.  A Monster in Paris

    7.  The Little Prince

    8.  Little Boy

    9.  North and South

    10.  The Nut Job


    Thank you!


    You are most welcome!

    Are there any that you recommend?  :-)
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    « Reply #39 on: November 06, 2016, 07:30:46 PM »
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  • Someone is full of himself.
    And judgmental to the extreme.  

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    « Reply #40 on: November 06, 2016, 08:12:21 PM »
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  • St Jerome certainly has reason to criticize the movie, and Gabrielle would do well to heed his words.

    Parents Guide for Amelie (2001) More at IMDbPro »
    Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain (original title)

    The content of this page was created directly by users and has not been screened or verified by IMDb staff.

    Since the beliefs that parents want to instill in their children can vary greatly, we ask that, instead of adding your personal opinions about what is right or wrong in a film, you use this feature to help parents make informed viewing decisions by describing the facts of relevant scenes in the title for each one of the different categories: Sex and Nudity, Violence and Gore, Profanity, Alcohol/Drugs/Smoking, and Frightening/Intense Scenes.
    View MPAA rating and/or certification information
    Visit our Parents Guide Help to learn more
     
    Parents Guide
    Sex & Nudity
    7/10

    14 minutes into the movie, there are 15 very quick shots of different couples experiencing....

    read more here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0211915/parentalguide?ref_=tt_stry_pg
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    « Reply #41 on: November 06, 2016, 08:55:38 PM »
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  • Jerome,

    1. You really have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to me or to this particular movie. Sorry, but you don't.

    2. You are not my father, priest, guardian, husband, boss or anyone who has any kind of authority to preach at me the way you are.

    3. You don't know anything about what occasions of sin I avoid or what kind of life I lead or have led.

    4. I have been lucky to have wonderful priests and brothers and sisters to guide me who I listen to. They warn about near occasions of sin, sins of the flesh, and everything else....they also warn against fanaticism though too.


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    « Reply #42 on: November 06, 2016, 09:00:20 PM »
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  • I recommend "Gentlemen with Guns" starring Buster Crabbe and Fuzzy St. John as his sidekick, Fuzzy Q. jones.  It's an entertaining western.  If that is not available, check out one of Joe E. Brown's comedies.  They are folksy and wholesome and funny.  

    Most movies are absolute spiritual rot but the older stuff is good.

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    « Reply #43 on: November 06, 2016, 09:03:42 PM »
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    St Jerome certainly has reason to criticize the movie, and Gabrielle would do well to heed his words.

    Parents Guide for Amelie (2001) More at IMDbPro »
    Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain (original title)

    The content of this page was created directly by users and has not been screened or verified by IMDb staff.

    Since the beliefs that parents want to instill in their children can vary greatly, we ask that, instead of adding your personal opinions about what is right or wrong in a film, you use this feature to help parents make informed viewing decisions by describing the facts of relevant scenes in the title for each one of the different categories: Sex and Nudity, Violence and Gore, Profanity, Alcohol/Drugs/Smoking, and Frightening/Intense Scenes.
    View MPAA rating and/or certification information
    Visit our Parents Guide Help to learn more
     
    Parents Guide
    Sex & Nudity
    7/10

    14 minutes into the movie, there are 15 very quick shots of different couples experiencing....

    read more here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0211915/parentalguide?ref_=tt_stry_pg


    Nadir,
    I know you won't believe me, but I can assure you that reading this guide about this movie and what your imagination creates regarding what you think they are describing will be what causes a near occasion of sin far and away more than watching the movie---I can assure you that.

    I would try to describe it to you but I don't think it would do any good.

    Also, again, I wouldn't recommend this movie for children and I would take out the scenes that are unnecessary and annoying, but there is nothing in this movie that is of concern for me.  And no, I do not have a hardened conscience, and anyone who knows me would probably laugh out loud if they heard someone say that regarding me.

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    « Reply #44 on: November 06, 2016, 09:15:55 PM »
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  • I saw the movie Amelie before I converted. I remember one scene where two unmarried people have sex in the bathroom of a public building and although you do not see them performing the act you hear them moaning like animals and it is supposed to be some sort of joke how everyone else hears them and knows what they are doing. The movie is trash.
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