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Offline Mithrandylan

Re: Mel Gibson/Resurrection
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2022, 10:43:26 AM »
Quote from: DigitalLogos on March 31, 2022, 09:32:21 AM
Feeling grief over the torture and execution of God Who took your own flesh and blood for His own is the most ordered expression of sorrow imaginable. So I don't ultimately see anything wrong with it, as cheesy as the flashbacks are.

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Do you find the flashback cheesy because you think the blessed mother would have withheld comfort from the Christ Child except for the most grievous of injuries? Not trying to be contrarian, it's just that I don't find the flashback cheesy at all and am trying to understand the argument. 
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Offline DigitalLogos

Re: Mel Gibson/Resurrection
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2022, 10:51:23 AM »
Quote from: Mithrandylan on March 31, 2022, 10:43:26 AM
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Do you find the flashback cheesy because you think the blessed mother would have withheld comfort from the Christ Child except for the most grievous of injuries? Not trying to be contrarian, it's just that I don't find the flashback cheesy at all and am trying to understand the argument.
I thought it was just an unnecessary addition to emphasize the moment, it kind of takes you out of the shock of what's going on with His walk to Calvary.
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Offline Mithrandylan

Re: Mel Gibson/Resurrection
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2022, 11:05:15 AM »
It was definitely an emphasis. This might just come down to taste, then. I found the flashback welcome, since it presented a deeper/different perspective from Our Lady's view. I think it's conventional to claim she experienced the most and perfect grief for Our Savior. The flashback tries to communicate that grief. It's alien to us, because none of us raised the Christ Child, none of us (literally) bandaged his scrapes and bruises as the Blessed Mother did. Add to that of course that none of us were holier than her either. Anyways, it's quite uncomfortable (the flashback) and yet it should be. Useful to be reminded of how in our weakness and self interest, that kind of grief would break us. 
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Mel Gibson/Resurrection
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2022, 11:13:52 AM »
Quote from: Mithrandylan on March 31, 2022, 10:43:26 AM
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Do you find the flashback cheesy because you think the blessed mother would have withheld comfort from the Christ Child except for the most grievous of injuries? Not trying to be contrarian, it's just that I don't find the flashback cheesy at all and am trying to understand the argument.

My issue with it was the opposite.  She hesitated to go comfort Our Lord and St. John practically had to plead with her to go.  I find that insulting to Our Lady.  She would never have hesitated for a single second.  Also, the scene where the Child Jesus falls down gently onto some straw from his height of about 2-feet depicts Our Lady "losing it", frantically flailing her hands chasing after the Child and losing her composure.  Also an insult to Our Lady.
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Offline Mithrandylan

Re: Mel Gibson/Resurrection
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2022, 11:24:09 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on March 31, 2022, 11:13:52 AM
My issue with it was the opposite.  She hesitated to go comfort Our Lord and St. John practically had to plead with her to go.  I find that insulting to Our Lady.  She would never have hesitated for a single second.  Also, the scene where the Child Jesus falls down gently onto some straw from his height of about 2-feet depicts Our Lady "losing it", frantically flailing her hands chasing after the Child and losing her composure.  Also an insult to Our Lady.
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That's an interesting perspective. Is it true that she could not have been overwhelmed by grief, such that would account for hesitation (I assume you do not interpret the hesitation as deliberate, as though she were evaluating whether or not she should assist)? She was human like us and emotions are human features, not dissimilar from hunger or other physiological processes. The idea of her being overwhelmed with grief in a way that could be momentarily arresting does not strike me as anymore unbecoming than the idea of her being exhausted or hungry from the journey to Egypt.
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I guess I don't remember the flashback well enough to agree with the depiction of her frantic and flailing, so I'll reserve a response to that part until I've refreshed my memory. Suffice it to say, I don't remember it as unbecoming but my memory could be off.
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