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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Mel Gibson/Resurrection
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2022, 11:13:30 AM »
Quote from: Mithrandylan on April 02, 2022, 10:32:23 AM
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I am not sure the usual course of child development can be considered a 'frailty.' I think that's very much what's at issue. Children are not born physically helpless as a function of original sin. They don't have to learn to walk, or run, or balance because of original sin or fallen nature. It's IN our nature to develop, to grow in excellence.

There are certainly natural limits, so for instance, I'm sure that Our Lord fell from time to time when He was first learning how to walk ... but those are due to inherent physical limitations.  What was depicted in the film was a clumsiness due to being inattentive.
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Offline Mithrandylan

Re: Mel Gibson/Resurrection
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2022, 12:13:19 PM »
At risk of being pedantic, inattentiveness comes in different varieties. For example, there is a difference between a grown man walking into a lamp-post while in public and a child misjudging the distance needed to take a step. One of these types of inattentiveness is vicious (the grown man, who by all accounts should understand how to 'look where he's going'), whilst the other very likely isn't vicious (children, quite innocently, do not have the same spacial awareness as an adult-- not by vicious defect, but simply by nature of their development). 

As far as interpreting the visual in question, it didn't seem to me a vicious kind of inattentiveness given the age of the child. If it was a vicious inattentiveness, the I think I agree with your point. 
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Offline Ladislaus

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« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2022, 12:30:57 PM »
OK, but Gladius and I are saying that any kind of inattentiveness is not possible for Our Lord given that He was not afflicted with the effects of Original Sin.  I don't want to spent a lot of time arguing about it.  It's not a matter of faith, just a conclusion I draw from the effects of Original Sin (to extrapolate back to someone who would not be effected by it), and you're entitled to your view on the matter.
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Offline Pax Vobis

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« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2022, 12:44:08 PM »
Let me play devils advocate here…I don’t see why Our Lord wouldn’t suspend his Divine intelligence/power, as part of suffering, and live like a “normal child”.  Scripture repeatedly tells us that the towns where Our Lord grew up rejected Him as the Messiah because they considered Him as a “normal man” and couldn’t accept He was special.  

Also let’s remember that Our Lord was 12 yrs old when He was “lost in the Temple” and Our Lady and St Joseph we’re surprised at where they found Him and His answer.  So, it’s implied His childhood was a normal one, not filled with daily miracles or suspensions of human frailty. 

I think it’s quite in line with His humility that He would hide His divinity, and live a normal life, until His 3 year public life.  

Just a thought. 
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Offline 2Vermont

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« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2022, 12:48:34 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on April 02, 2022, 12:44:08 PM
Let me play devils advocate here…I don’t see why Our Lord wouldn’t suspend his Divine intelligence/power, as part of suffering, and live like a “normal child”.  Scripture repeatedly tells us that the towns where Our Lord grew up rejected Him as the Messiah because they considered Him as a “normal man” and couldn’t accept He was special. 

Also let’s remember that Our Lord was 12 yrs old when He was “lost in the Temple” and Our Lady and St Joseph we’re surprised at where they found Him and His answer.  So, it’s implied His childhood was a normal one, not filled with daily miracles or suspensions of human frailty.

I think it’s quite in line with His humility that He would hide His divinity, and live a normal life, until His 3 year public life. 

Just a thought.
Excellent post.
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