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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Mel Gibson
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2022, 08:26:41 AM »
The 'protestant rewrite' happens to be more consistent between Genesis and this passage here so it seems that the Douay-Rheims is the one that falls short.

Pffft.  As the DR footnote points out, the Church Fathers were divided based on variants in the text and there's no question of being "more" or "less" consistent with Genesis.  Question is the text of Genesis itself.  And I'll take St. Jerome's reading of the text over yours (or that of the Prots) any day.  St. Jerome used he Septuagint, which likely more accurately reflects the original Hebrew than the Hebrew texts that survived (which in many places were deliberately altered to expunge Christian reading of the OT).

Offline DecemRationis

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Re: Mel Gibson
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2022, 10:37:18 AM »

Pffft.  As the DR footnote points out, the Church Fathers were divided based on variants in the text and there's no question of being "more" or "less" consistent with Genesis.  Question is the text of Genesis itself.  And I'll take St. Jerome's reading of the text over yours (or that of the Prots) any day.  St. Jerome used he Septuagint, which likely more accurately reflects the original Hebrew than the Hebrew texts that survived (which in many places were deliberately altered to expunge Christian reading of the OT).

Yes. The Apostles often cited the Septuagint text in Holy Scripture, lending support to its variations from the Jєωs’ Masoretic, Hebrew text of the Rabbis.


Offline Mark 79

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Re: Mel Gibson
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2022, 10:44:33 AM »
Extensive discussion of the "Hebrew Bible" fraud: http://judaism.is/hebrew-bible.html

Re: Mel Gibson
« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2022, 11:00:24 AM »
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Everything said hitherto that rebuts your position is true, and here is another way to look at Genesis 3:15

Blessed Mary crushes the head of the Serpent by her consent to Divine will to bear the only true Messiah. She walked the walk not only talked the talk, just as her Divine Son put His Skin in the game by genetically manifesting Himself here as the New Covenant and having to endure the sins of the world upon Himself. He walked the walk not only talked the talk (giving us the scripture). The fact that Blessed Mary, in her expressed words "be it done to me according to thy word", consents to Divine will to bear the only true Messiah
, and her living a life free from sin by her own free will (not an internal programming or mechanism that bypassed free will), and her being the Immaculate Conception, is what crushes the head of the Serpent. God chose to use a most pure and obedient Ark to enter the world and save those who are baptized into Him and live His word. The Ark is Mary. He didn't need Mary. God doesn't need anyone or anything, but He chose Mary because she passed the Litmus Test in her life. She is the best warrior in the gladiatorial arena that determines who each and every one of us really are and determines where we will go for eternity. God could've entered the world in any way but He chose Mary because she passed where everyone else failed. Her life and "yes" crushes the head of the Serpent, for without Blessed Mary, humanity would likely still be waiting for the Son of God to become flesh and dwell among and save us, and the souls in the Bosom of Abraham would still be there and not released to Heaven.

Re: Mel Gibson
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2022, 09:27:08 PM »

Extensive discussion of the "Hebrew Bible" fraud: http://judaism.is/hebrew-bible.html

Yes!
 Let us never forget the continual false writings, misdirection and infiltration of Catholic literature and the Holy Scriptures by the jews.