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Re: Mel Gibson
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2022, 06:22:09 AM »
Exclusive? Here is St. Paul writing to the church in Romans 16:
"And the God of peace crush Satan under your feet speedily." Douay-Rheims

"And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly" KJV

The 'protestant rewrite' happens to be more consistent between Genesis and this passage here so it seems that the Douay-Rheims is the one that falls short.
In Romans 16, St Paul is adressing the saints in Rome, so in the first quote “your feet” is referring to the feet of the saints in Rome.


In Genesis 3[15] I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.

[15] "She shall crush": Ipsa, the woman; so divers of the fathers read this place, conformably to the Latin: others read it ipsum, viz., the seed. The sense is the same: for it is by her seed, Jesus Christ, that the woman crushes the serpent's head.

How is the “protestant rewrite” more consistent than drbo with Genesis 3:15.

Re: Mel Gibson
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2022, 09:55:53 PM »
In Romans 16, St Paul is adressing the saints in Rome, so in the first quote “your feet” is referring to the feet of the saints in Rome.


In Genesis 3. [15] I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.

[15] "She shall crush": Ipsa, the woman; so divers of the fathers read this place, conformably to the Latin: others read it ipsum, viz., the seed. The sense is the same: for it is by her seed, Jesus Christ, that the woman crushes the serpent's head.

How is the “protestant rewrite” more consistent than drbo with Genesis 3:15.
Referring to the feet of the saints/church in Rome is what I already said. Tell that to Incredulous who said it was exclusive to Mary.


Re: Mel Gibson
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2022, 10:16:52 PM »
I went to see The Passion when it first came out & everyone was raving about it.  I was unimpressed with it.  

Re: Mel Gibson
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2022, 11:27:20 PM »
How is the “protestant rewrite” more consistent than drbo with Genesis 3:15.
The results speak for themselves. The DRB led people to think that it was talking about Mary and not the seed of woman and the on going war between the seed (mankind) and the serpent.

Re: Mel Gibson
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2022, 11:43:15 PM »
The results speak for themselves. The DRB led people to think that it was talking about Mary and not the seed of woman and the on going war between the seed (mankind) and the serpent.

Who do you think this "woman" is?  The ARK (which was OVERSHADOWED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT)  was seen and the "woman" does battle with the dragon who made war with her seed. 

Are you one of her seed?






The Apocalypse of St John 11(Revelation)>

[19] And the temple of God was opened in heaven: and the ark of his testament was seen in his temple, and there were lightnings, and voices, and an earthquake, and great hail.




The Apocalypse of St John (Revelation)  Chapter 12
The vision of the woman clothed with the sun and of the great dragon her persecutor.

[1] And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars: [2] And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered. [3] And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads, and ten horns: and on his heads seven diadems: [4] And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to be delivered; that, when she should be delivered, he might devour her son. [5] And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with an iron rod: and her son was taken up to God, and to his throne.

[1] "A woman": The church of God. It may also, by allusion, be applied to our blessed Lady. The church is clothed with the sun, that is, with Christ: she hath the moon, that is, the changeable things of the world, under her feet: and the twelve stars with which she is crowned, are the twelve apostles: she is in labour and pain, whilst she brings forth her children, and Christ in them, in the midst of afflictions and persecutions.

[6] And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she had a place prepared by God, that there they should feed her a thousand two hundred sixty days. [7] And there was a great battle in heaven, Michael and his angels fought with the dragon, and the dragon fought and his angels: [8] And they prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven. [9] And that great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, who seduceth the whole world; and he was cast unto the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. [10] And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying: Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: because the accuser of our brethren is cast forth, who accused them before our God day and night.

[11] And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of the testimony, and they loved not their lives unto death. [12] Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you that dwell therein. Woe to the earth, and to the sea, because the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, knowing that he hath but a short time. [13] And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman, who brought forth the man child: [14] And there were given to the woman two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the desert unto her place, where she is nourished for a time and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. [15] And the serpent cast out of his mouth after the woman, water as it were a river; that he might cause her to be carried away by the river.

[16] And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the river, which the dragon cast out of his mouth. [17] And the dragon was angry against the woman: and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. [18] And he stood upon the sand of the sea.



http://www.drbo.org/chapter/73012.htm