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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2025, 07:17:41 PM »
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  • And both Ladislaus and PaxVobis completely ignore my comment, which exposes Caviezel as a total fraud. There's lots on Gibson, as well.

    Not surprising. PaxVobis actually fell for QAnon.

    Yeah, ignoring it since that nonsense is irrelevant to whether they can make a good movie about Our Lord.

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
    « Reply #16 on: August 09, 2025, 07:22:33 PM »
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  • I wish the world had more 'problems' like Jim Caviezel. He and his wife adopted three very ill children, and he is on the correct side of most issues.  As far as being a 'fake catholic'....only God knows what's in his heart. 

    Yeah ... so this is one of the main reasons I don't want to post here anymore.  There's an un-checked campaign of calumny and slander on this forum by a bunch of the resident Pharisees, where Caviezel is fake, Shia Labeauf's conversion was fake, where Archbishop Vigano was a Masonic Satanist sun-worshipper (no exaggeration), etc. etc.  You see one slander like this after another.  Or, this, that, or the other person is an infiltrator or controlled opposition ... spewed forth without the slightest bit of evidence.

    So, uhm, people can be wrong without their being "controlled opposition", and the criterion for these slanderous clowns for denouncing someone as some deliberate bad actor is that they don't agree with the fool's own personal opinion about one or another matter.  Even if he's wrong, it has in fact happened in the history of the world that poeple were just plain wrong.  Similarly, some people see Satan behind every bush, where he's responsible for every evil and sin in the world, forgetting that the flesh and the world also suffice to lead people to sin without any involvement needed from a demon.


    Offline Incredulous

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    Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
    « Reply #17 on: August 09, 2025, 10:00:04 PM »
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  • Well stated, there's probably a lot of " fake" catholics on this forum, as for Jim and Mel, " By their fruits ye shall know them".

    Tell me, what is so terrible that these two have produced?  I see a whole lot worse in the world than this duo, a lot worse. And Mel and his father have openly called the jews out for decades, using their own names, a lot more than some of the malcontents posting on here.

    Before you go mocking and accussing these two, take the log out of your own eye.
    You have to be kidding.

    Gibson has made a ton of trash movies and he’s a public adulterer.

    In addition, he’s a mason and rather open about it.

    Lastly, let me ask you: 
    Is this scene from Gibson’s “Passion” in Protestant or Catholic Scriptures?

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
    « Reply #18 on: August 09, 2025, 10:28:54 PM »
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  • Is this scene from Gibson’s “Passion” in Protestant or Catholic Scriptures?


    It's in creative license.  It's a movie based on scripture.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
    « Reply #19 on: August 10, 2025, 04:02:15 AM »
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  • You have to be kidding.

    Gibson has made a ton of trash movies and he’s a public adulterer.

    In addition, he’s a mason and rather open about it.

    Lastly, let me ask you:
    Is this scene from Gibson’s “Passion” in Protestant or Catholic Scriptures?



    There were a few things in Mel’s movie that were off from a Catholic perspective, but I’ve got to say that a number of conversions were said to be due to it. That counts for something in my book. I’ve never heard that Mel was a mason, what proof of this do you have?


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    Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
    « Reply #20 on: August 10, 2025, 10:56:17 AM »
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  • I'm not sitting through that whole show to psycho analyze jim and I don't see how one split second of  an auschwitz comment  diminshes his credibility, he was talking more about the unborn and special needs more than anything. Let's face it, while the nαzιs were on to the jew, they were still mostly anticatholic , pagan scuмbags who didn't value human life the same as taught in the Gospels.

    I see no fraud in those clips.

    To the bolded, this is why I've long viewed you as a fake, going back to Fisheaters.
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.

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    Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
    « Reply #21 on: August 12, 2025, 08:05:12 PM »
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  • There were a few things in Mel’s movie that were off from a Catholic perspective, but I’ve got to say that a number of conversions were said to be due to it. That counts for something in my book. I’ve never heard that Mel was a mason, what proof of this do you have?

    "Successful" jew-Hollywood, actors & actresses consent to being photographed making masonic signs... and much more. 

    Making the "Eye of Horus" is one of the popular ones.
     








    Gibson's Hollywood career has specialized in this.











    If you search online, you can find Gibson's freemasonic induction date. 


    The freemasons are proud of him and claim masonry has made his career what it is.

    __________________________________________________________________


    And our heroic trad guy, just loves to impregnate single women and show them off:



    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
    « Reply #22 on: August 12, 2025, 08:17:49 PM »
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  • It's in creative license.  It's a movie based on scripture.

    Let me correct that for you: 

    "It's a movie based on judaized scriptures."


    The very basis of our Catholic theology is that The Virgin Mary has exclusive license to crush the head of the serpent.

    Book of Genesis 3:15  

    "I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel."

    In his "Passion", Gibson visually gave you the redacted, Protestant version of the Book of Genesis... and you didn't even notice it.









    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
    « Reply #23 on: August 12, 2025, 08:23:34 PM »
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  • You have to be kidding.

    Gibson has made a ton of trash movies and he’s a public adulterer.

    In addition, he’s a mason and rather open about it.

    Lastly, let me ask you:
    Is this scene from Gibson’s “Passion” in Protestant or Catholic Scriptures?



    More of your slanders, and you're one of the chief slanderers here.  Here's from the Douay-Rheims Challoner foonotes from around 1750.
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    [15] "She shall crush": Ipsa, the woman; so divers of the fathers read this place, conformably to the Latin: others read it ipsum, viz., the seed. The sense is the same: for it is by her seed, Jesus Christ, that the woman crushes the serpent's head.

    There are in fact two manuscript traditions, and Christ crushing the serpent's head is AS CATHOLIC as OUR LADY crushing the Serpent's head, where in point of fact BOTH did, but had different relationships with the crushing, just as Our Lord was the Redeemer but Our Lady played a role in it.

    Yes, Gibson was just giving in to the Prots, because you say so.  Then explain the scene where St. Peter, after having denied Our Lord, knelt before Our Lady and called her Mother, begging her forgiveness.  You could hear the Protestants cringe halfway across the country just by watching that scene.

    Gibson based a lot of the movie on Katherine Emmerich, so that's likely where he got it.  So, the scene in the Garden has Satan there tempting him to refuse the Passion, but it was when he rejected that temptation and accepted God's will, definitively commiting Himself to redeem mankind that the symbolism makes perfect sense for Him at that very moment to crush the head of the serpent that had just been tempting him, and then also referring to crushing the head in Genesis as a reference to His Redemption.  It works very well in the movie.  You can now go ahead and imagine Our Lady crushing a serpent at the exact same moment wherever she was when this took place.

    Yes, he's a public adulter, and you're a Pharisaical scuм for calling him out, as your callout is rooted in derision and lack of charity, and not some attempt to "rebuke" him, since Gibson is well aware of his sins, and has mentioned them.

    Then of course your Mason crap, where you have those out-of-context photos of him making various gestures.  That doesn't make you a "Mason" ... so adding yet another calumny to all the rest.  At best he was asked to do that by the photographer and didn't entirely or at all really understand its signficance when he did it.  See, that's the kind of interpretation that charity requires.  In nearly all photo shoots, it's the photographer calling the shots and telling them how to pose.  He was also young in those two.  Where he had his hand in his coat pocket, there's a 100 reasons he could have had it there other than intending to make some Masonic gesture.  In fact, I often did the exact same thing when I was a seminarian, since it felt like a comfortable place to put my hand, where it was suspended on top of one of the cassock buttons.  You see one picture out of context, where the hand was in that position for maybe a fraction of a second as he was possibly in process of doing something else.  Finally, the double thumb-index finger sign, given the angle of his hands, looks more like the Italian gesture, which is often doubled up.  With the 666 version, you they curl the fingers down more and turn the hand sideways, rather than more palms away form them.



    As I said before, this guy and other slanderers need to be banned from this forum, as they give all Traditional Catholics a bad name.  Yet nothing is done about it and clear slander is tolerated on a daily basis.

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    Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
    « Reply #24 on: August 12, 2025, 08:27:50 PM »
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  • The very basis of our Catholic theology is that The Virgin Mary has exclusive license to crush the head of the serpent.

    False ... you slanderous liar.  But then maybe Bishop Challoner who wrote (or at least authorized that note) was crypto-Jew.  Never fear, Incredible, the true and pure Catholic, renowned for his incredible knowledge, wisdom, and charity ... is the judge of all souls and can hurl out calumnies with impunity.

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    Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
    « Reply #25 on: August 12, 2025, 08:29:24 PM »
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  • More of your slanders, and you're one of the chief slanderers here.  Here's from the Douay-Rheims Challoner foonotes from around 1750.
    There are in fact two manuscript traditions, and Christ crushing the serpent's head is AS CATHOLIC as OUR LADY crushing the Serpent's head, where in point of fact BOTH did, but had different relationships with the crushing, just as Our Lord was the Redeemer but Our Lady played a role in it.

    Yes, Gibson was just giving in to the Prots, because you say so.  Then explain the scene where St. Peter, after having denied Our Lord, knelt before Our Lady and called her Mother, begging her forgiveness.  You could hear the Protestants cringe halfway across the country just by watching that scene.

    Gibson based a lot of the movie on Katherine Emmerich, so that's likely where he got it.  So, the scene in the Garden has Satan there tempting him to refuse the Passion, but it was when he rejected that temptation and accepted God's will, definitively commiting Himself to redeem mankind that the symbolism makes perfect sense for Him at that very moment to crush the head of the serpent that had just been tempting him, and then also referring to crushing the head in Genesis as a reference to His Redemption.  It works very well in the movie.  You can now go ahead and imagine Our Lady crushing a serpent at the exact same moment wherever she was when this took place.

    Yes, he's a public adulter, and you're a Pharisaical scuм for calling him out, as your callout is rooted in derision and lack of charity, and not some attempt to "rebuke" him, since Gibson is well aware of his sins, and has mentioned them.

    Then of course your Mason crap, where you have those out-of-context photos of him making various gestures.  That doesn't make you a "Mason" ... so adding yet another calumny to all the rest.  At best he was asked to do that by the photographer and didn't entirely or at all really understand its signficance when he did it.  See, that's the kind of interpretation that charity requires.  In nearly all photo shoots, it's the photographer calling the shots and telling them how to pose.  He was also young in those two.  Where he had his hand in his coat pocket, there's a 100 reasons he could have had it there other than intending to make some Masonic gesture.  In fact, I often did the exact same thing when I was a seminarian, since it felt like a comfortable place to put my hand, where it was suspended on top of one of the cassock buttons.  You see one picture out of context, where the hand was in that position for maybe a fraction of a second as he was possibly in process of doing something else.  Finally, the double thumb-index finger sign, given the angle of his hands, looks more like the Italian gesture, which is often doubled up.  With the 666 version, you they curl the fingers down more and turn the hand sideways, rather than more palms away form them.



    As I said before, this guy and other slanderers need to be banned from this forum, as they give all Traditional Catholics a bad name.  Yet nothing is done about it and clear slander is tolerated on a daily basis.

    Please shut-up and then ban yourself from the forum again...
    you CIA connection with incessant topic mis-directions.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
    « Reply #26 on: August 12, 2025, 08:34:42 PM »
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  • To the bolded, this is why I've long viewed you as a fake, going back to Fisheaters.

    Right, so the mere fact that he says that Caviezel could just be mistaken or misled (in good faith) about the h0Ɩ0h0αx is enough now to slander that poster as a "fake", right?  In other words, even by two degrees of separation, such as when you're a heretic not only for holding a certain position, but also a heretic even if you don't hold that position but merely say that one's not necessarily a heretic for holding it.  Many people have been propagandized into believing in the h0Ɩ0h0αx so thoroughly that telling them it didn't happen would be met with exactly the same reaction as you'd get from a globe-believer if you tell him the earth is flat.  I believed all that crap for many decades until God (not me on my own merits) straightened me out on the matter.  At no time was I a "fake" or some crypto-Jews, just duped without ever having encountered any reason NOT to believe the narrative I had been fed, such as the famous line from the Truman show, that the default attitude people have is to accept the reality of that which has been presented to them.

    This is why I'm so sick of this forum, literal rectal orifices like this, Incred, and a good number of others who constantly deride and judge everyone, as if they could read souls. Get lost and go back to your dens of iniquity.  For all your hatred of Jews, I've never seen people who were greater Pharises that you and several others here.

    Rather than being edified in coming onto this Traditional Catholic forum, I find myself disgusted by garbage like these slanders.

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    Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
    « Reply #27 on: August 12, 2025, 08:46:18 PM »
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  • This is why I'm so sick of this forum, literal rectal orifices like this, Incred, and a good number of others who constantly deride and judge everyone, as if they could read souls. Get lost and go back to your dens of iniquity.  For all your hatred of Jews, I've never seen people who were greater Pharises that you and several others here.

    Rather than being edified in coming onto this Traditional Catholic forum, I find myself disgusted by garbage like these slanders.

    Why not just tear into the fallacious logic, lambast it with no holds barred, and leave it at that? That would be ideal and perfectly OK.

    If someone needs criticism, BY ALL MEANS criticize them. No need to mince words either.

    But was it really necessary to get into "cooties" where a few bad apples somehow infect everyone here on CathInfo, even the good? Why does a forum have to be populated with 100% literal saints to be any good, or worth visiting?
    I got news for you. If you go anywhere socially, any social contexts at all INCLUDING YOUR MASS CENTER there is absolutely as much sin as you find here on CathInfo, per capita. In fact, if I were a betting man, I'd say there was LESS sin/imperfection per capita here on CathInfo.

    Do you throw around such generalizations at your chapel, where you can SEE all the pious and kindly old ladies, and other devout Catholics? The sort of virtuous Catholics you wouldn't say anything critical or mean to -- you would only greet them kindly, engage in pleasant conversation, etc. Because guess what -- there are plenty of such Catholics here on CathInfo as well. Why are you blaming them for the sinful actions of a few?

    Where did you get your ridiculously high standards for where you will go, to be social with other Catholics? Do you have any friends at all?
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    Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
    « Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 03:59:48 PM »
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  • You have to be kidding.

    Gibson has made a ton of trash movies and he’s a public adulterer.

    In addition, he’s a mason and rather open about it.

    Lastly, let me ask you:
    Is this scene from Gibson’s “Passion” in Protestant or Catholic Scriptures?


    He's made some trash movies like any other hollyweird actor, no surprise there, that's just part of the " business,", the best hitters in baseball average about .300, that's roughly 3 out of ten hits every at bat, not every pic is gonna be a hr, but the man has acted, directed and produced some classics, a lot more than the majority of his peers.

    I need more proof he's a mason than a few obscure , speculative pics. The man was raised a sed catholic, I highly doubt he ever joined such an anticatholic organization.


    And the scene from the passion was probably symbolic of defeating the devil, more than taking away from Our Lady in Holy Scripture, IDK, I don't read the man's mind, has he ever commented on that scene publicly?
    As for the adultery thing, just one of the many public problems he's gotta deal with, probably all wrapped in his issues with alchohol, I never daid the man's a saint. But I believed he's produced some pretty good stuff over the years, I'll take him and his fight with the jews well over fag, anti christian , dominated industry he works in.

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    Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
    « Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 04:02:35 PM »
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  • To the bolded, this is why I've long viewed you as a fake, going back to Fisheaters.
    And I always took you as a closet fag/drunk, so no biggie here  either.