Author Topic: How the Irish Saved Civilization... (Read 5767 times)

Traditional Guy 20 · « **on:** July 13, 2012, 09:23:06 AM »

Interesting little book about how the Irish monks saved many of the great works of the Greeks and Romans...

What was your opinion of this book if you read it...

ora pro me · « **Reply #1 on:** July 13, 2012, 04:26:04 PM »

I highly recommend this book and have given a couple away as gifts.

theology101 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 13, 2012, 08:48:19 PM »

Haven't read it, but I'd really like to!

Tiffany · « **Reply #3 on:** July 14, 2012, 05:15:26 AM »

Thank you, I've been looking for something to read.

LaramieHirsch · « **Reply #4 on:** July 14, 2012, 12:55:45 PM »

I could have SWORN that somewhere in this book, I came across a passage in it where an Irish king is being told about the crucifixion of a man-god in the East--an early testimony of the awareness of Christ's crucifixion. However, I was never able to find that passage again. Anyone know that passage, or what page it was on?

sedetrad · « **Reply #5 on:** July 14, 2012, 07:15:53 PM »

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man-god in the East--an early testimony of the awareness of Christ's crucifixion. However, I was never able to find that passage again. Anyone know that passage, or what page it was on?

I thought that I read of a similar event that happened with a Chinese emperor during the crucifixion? I could be mistaken.

Nishant · « **Reply #6 on:** July 14, 2012, 09:52:12 PM »

Well, I haven't read that particular book but have read many like it on the role of Christian monks in fostering civilization. It goes way, way beyond mere preservation of literature, and it wasn't only in Ireland too.

This book below is one of my favorites, it's title says it all. And believe it or not, it received rave reviews even from secularist historians.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0895260387/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0895260387&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20

Starry Plough · « **Reply #7 on:** August 01, 2012, 06:21:09 AM »

It's been a while since I read this but I recall it as very entertaining though not
particularly accurate. A lot of it was Cahill's opinion or speculation. Not backed up
with sources. He said the early Irish church had female bishops. Really?
He said that St Patrick was the equal of St Augustine. Really?
There's an old Irish saying to the effect that a good story is more important than
the truth. That applies here. imo.

Scriptorium · « **Reply #8 on:** August 01, 2012, 08:37:46 AM »

I also believe, if my memory is correct, that he overly stated the distinctions between the celtic church and the roman church. Kind of like, things were great before the Romans got involved.

Starry Plough · « **Reply #9 on:** August 01, 2012, 09:32:06 AM »

Agreed. He seemed to think that the church today would be better off if it had
followed the Irish way rather than the Latin. He dismissed priestly celibacy
among other things.

Roman55 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 01, 2012, 12:44:49 PM »

Quote from: Traditional Guy 20

Interesting little book about how the Irish monks saved many of the great works of the Greeks and Romans...

What was your opinion of this book if you read it...

I"ve not read this one, but now plan to.
God love the Irish! When you say "Monks saved many", it reminded me of a sermon I'd heard about how the religious have had a very quiet, yet very powerful influence on the world in a time when religious houses were plenty and filled with wonderful vocations. Looking at the landscape today and how the religious houses are few and far between, its not surprising decay in the world has set in.

John Grace · « **Reply #11 on:** August 01, 2012, 04:04:04 PM »

I'm interviewing a religious sister next week. I had an initial meeting with her today. She did appreciate me thanking her for her orders work in Ireland.

Whilst on the topic of Ireland, what particular questions should I ask her? For some in Ireland the orphanages and Magdalen Asylums were not a good experience.

I have no objection giving her a grilling and tearing in to her over issues but I feel the interview could go badly.

She was wearing trousers and blouse. The typical attire of the religious sister today. She is writing a docuмent for me. I found her very friendly,pleasant and charitable.

Do offer some suggestions.

Starry Plough · « **Reply #12 on:** August 01, 2012, 05:21:38 PM »

Did you say....PANTS!!?? :really-mad2:

scolairebocht · « **Reply #13 on:** August 01, 2012, 06:18:00 PM »

Can I ask what type of interview is that, for radio or video or?

John Grace · « **Reply #14 on:** August 10, 2012, 03:00:49 PM »

Quote from: John Grace

I'm interviewing a religious sister next week. I had an initial meeting with her today. She did appreciate me thanking her for her orders work in Ireland.

Whilst on the topic of Ireland, what particular questions should I ask her? For some in Ireland the orphanages and Magdalen Asylums were not a good experience.

I have no objection giving her a grilling and tearing in to her over issues but I feel the interview could go badly.

She was wearing trousers and blouse. The typical attire of the religious sister today. She is writing a docuмent for me. I found her very friendly,pleasant and charitable.

Do offer some suggestions.

An interview didn't take place. Instead I picked up the docuмent they had prepared for me. The Sister I had spoken to the previous week was unavailable. I shall be writing to them to thank them for typing up the docuмent and will perhaps outline a few questions. I wanted to read the docuмent before asking questions.