Author Topic: For Greater Glory (Read 13173 times)

Thorn · « **on:** May 02, 2012, 11:26:27 PM »

Trailers are starting to be seen around TV & the internet on a new movie every Catholic should make a point to go see when it is released June 1.

Starring Oscar Isaac, Andy Garcia & Eva Longoria with Peter O'Toole, it's 'an epic chronicle of the Christeros War in Mexico' (1926 to 1929).

Eva Longoria was interviewed on TV and the clips shown were truly impressive!!

Jitpring · « **Reply #1 on:** May 03, 2012, 10:33:32 AM »

The trailers I've seen make it look like yet another exercise in rank sentimentalism. It'll therefore do huge numbers at the box office.

s2srea · « **Reply #2 on:** May 03, 2012, 10:44:34 AM »

Hey Thorn, its not Catholic, if that's what you're asking. I haven't seen it, but I've looked into it already and was already disappointed. I don't know why I had my hopes up. The main character isn't a Cristero, nor Catholic, from what I can tell. It seems he's fighting for the Freemasonic interpretation of "freedom", which is the anti-Catholic interpretation; the false, and might I say, demonic, interpretation.

s2srea · « **Reply #3 on:** May 03, 2012, 10:45:09 AM »

And Eva Longoria is a hoochie mamma.

s2srea · « **Reply #4 on:** May 03, 2012, 10:46:22 AM »

Lastly, I think this was originally supposed to be called "Cristiada". I think putting the words "Christ" was just too much for Jєω controlled Hollywood.

Thorn · « **Reply #5 on:** May 03, 2012, 10:47:52 AM »

Jitpring, too bad you feel that way. I originally heard about it last Sunday at church as a trad Catholic that we know worked on the movie (no, not Mel!).
They say that they carefully worked on the costumes & sets & tried very hard to honestly recreate this bloody battle. As they said - not many people know about this and it's about time that people do know what happened.

The fact is that many priests were murdered & hung up on poles along the highway. That's an historical fact, not rank sentimentalism! I hope it does do well & they make millions.

Thorn · « **Reply #6 on:** May 03, 2012, 10:51:02 AM »

s2srea, you're right it was supposed to be called Cristiada & had to be changed!

Well, we'll just have to see who's right about all this. I shall go see it.

s2srea · « **Reply #7 on:** May 03, 2012, 11:46:47 AM »

Please report back! :)

Roland Deschain · « **Reply #8 on:** May 26, 2012, 12:28:59 PM »

Quote from: s2srea

Hey Thorn, its not Catholic, if that's what you're asking. I haven't seen it, but I've looked into it already and was already disappointed. I don't know why I had my hopes up. The main character isn't a Cristero, nor Catholic, from what I can tell. It seems he's fighting for the Freemasonic interpretation of "freedom", which is the anti-Catholic interpretation; the false, and might I say, demonic, interpretation.

I thought I had read somewhere that Enrique Gorostieta eventually converted. I can't remember where, though.

I do echo your sentiments that the way this movie is being marketed is less then desirable for a Catholic. The Cristeros were not fighting for American style freedom and democracy. They were fighting for the true freedom of the Church and the rights of Christ the King.

Sadly it sounds like the neo-cons are going to latch onto this movie and make the Cristeros sound like little more then the ideological children of the masonic-deists who founded this country.

Thorn · « **Reply #9 on:** May 26, 2012, 07:49:14 PM »

s2s, I wasn't asking anything, just reporting about the movie.
I'm going to see it. Ordinarily I don't go to R rated movies; as a matter of fact I generally don't go to movies at all but want to see this one. I assume the R rating is for the terrible violence.

(I haven't had a computer for 2 weeks & am just getting caught up on all the news.)

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #10 on:** May 26, 2012, 09:35:49 PM »

Quote from: s2srea

Hey Thorn, its not Catholic, if that's what you're asking. I haven't seen it, but I've looked into it already and was already disappointed. I don't know why I had my hopes up. The main character isn't a Cristero, nor Catholic, from what I can tell. It seems he's fighting for the Freemasonic interpretation of "freedom", which is the anti-Catholic interpretation; the false, and might I say, demonic, interpretation.

That's because in reality he wasn't a Cristero. He was a mercenary they hired to become their Generalisimo, and a very effective one at that. Not to mention the fact he was a high ranking Freemason who was looking to use the movement as a stepping stone to the Mexican presidency.

While it's not ideal, I think the storyline from the "freedom-fighter" point of view will be fairly accurate as far as the main character is concerned. He was after all a liberal.

I'm still going to go see it.

I'm confident it's going to make at least some of our people begin to think and question the official version of their history as it's been presented to them.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #11 on:** May 28, 2012, 11:44:41 PM »

The film doesn't interest me enough to make me want to go see it.

I don't like going to the movies, though I will go IF a good Catholic movie is playing. I think I'll take s2srea's word for it, however, and avoid watching it.

Thorn · « **Reply #12 on:** June 10, 2012, 02:18:22 PM »

I went to see For Greater Glory yesterday & it is a Great movie!! I highly recommend it. The casting & acting were perfect & the storyline engrossing.
It was Providential that it was released at this time as some of the dialogue was apropos for today. (I don't think that that was intentional), just my thoughts.

s2srea, I wholeheartedly disagree with you. It IS a very Catholic film that should be of interest to all Catholics. They show the traditional Mass several times & other Catholic things. It was a riveting story that came out at the right time. In the movie the main character indeed isn't Catholic & even is a mercenary, but they needed an experienced leader & asked him & he finally consented. In the movie he struggles with Catholicism & becomes one in the end. I think that you're completely wrong about the "freedom" thing. Please do go see it & THEN make a judgement on it. Don't judge it without even seeing it. That's not fair.

SS, please go see it. The fact that a real Catholic movie is playing in a secular theater is a miracle in itself. I came out energized, enlightened & even entertained! They did show violence but never dwelt on it - they left it to your imagination - mercifully.

If more people go see this movie, then maybe more truly Catholic movies will be made. They would be willing to take a chance to produce more.

When you go be sure & wait till the very end where they tell you some additional information. For instance, the daughter of the leader just died in 2005.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #13 on:** June 11, 2012, 05:50:01 PM »

We saw it and it was a great movie. It showed the "h0Ɩ0cαųst" of Catholics. I feel the main character was the little boy who was beaten and tortured and still refused to deny Christ and the Catholic faith. It showed many holy priests who were tortured and murdered while defending the Catholic faith. The Cristeros gave all love and obedience to God.

These holy people died defending Christ, our Blessed Mother and our Catholic faith instead of giving in to obedience...

The Traditional Mass was the Mass of the Cristeros.

!Viva Cristo Rey y viva la Virgen de Guadalupe!

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #14 on:** June 11, 2012, 05:54:59 PM »

After further research of the film, it does seem like a good movie. Several Traditional Catholic priests have recommended the film. So I retract what I originally said about the movie.