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Re: Christopher Lee life experience applied to LOTR
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2024, 04:24:06 AM »
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  • Christopher Lee also witnessed the last public execution by guillotine in Paris in the 1930’s I believe. 
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: Christopher Lee life experience applied to LOTR
    « Reply #2 on: October 03, 2024, 04:44:52 AM »
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  • I don't know why the assumption is that this advice is due to "life experience", if by "life experience" is meant Lee's wartime activities.

    He's shown to be a fraud here, about many of his WWII claims:

    https://allthatsinteresting.com/christopher-lee-military-career

    Lots of people know that people often don't scream when they're stabbed. I thought that was common knowledge.

    Speaking of LOTR, I like this part about Tolkien:


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    "It’s true that the Hobbit occasionally describes the dwarves in ways Jews would be unlikely to welcome – as Soloveichik points out, Tolkien’s description in “The Hobbit” of dwarves as “not heroes, but calculating folk with a great idea of the value of money; some are tricky and treacherous and pretty bad lots,” is uncomfortably resonant with anti-Semitic tropes


    But Tolkien was naive about the jws, as the rest of this article demonstrates.

    --https://forward.com/culture/349108/how-jews-helped-inspire-jrr-tolkiens-the-hobbit/


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    Re: Christopher Lee life experience applied to LOTR
    « Reply #3 on: October 03, 2024, 07:57:33 AM »
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  • But Tolkien was naive about the jws, as the rest of this article demonstrates.

    --https://forward.com/culture/349108/how-Jєωs-helped-inspire-jrr-tolkiens-the-hobbit/

    I was also very naive about the jws until I read a book by Don Luigi Villa about 13 years ago. 

    I don't know why the Church has published no encyclicals or Papal Bulls on this important subject for hundreds of years.  

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    « Reply #4 on: October 03, 2024, 01:20:26 PM »
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  • I was also very naive about the jws until I read a book by Don Luigi Villa about 13 years ago.

    I don't know why the Church has published no encyclicals or Papal Bulls on this important subject for hundreds of years. 
    Our Lady of La Salette:

    "The Church will be in eclipse, the world will be in dismay."

    When traditional Catholics are fooled by jws you know these aren't good times for Catholics. Or even for non-jwish non-Catholics with two working brain cells.

    How are trad Catholics fooled by all these "notable figures" like Jordan Peterson and Tucker Carlson? How are they fooled by such obvious frauds on these forums? They don't use the jw test. That's why.

    The Church hasn't emphasized the evil of the jws, because the people running the Church are noahides. They're not really Catholic, except in a baptismal sense.

    There's no reason for the Catholic Church to exist if Catholics aren't enemies of jws. The Church, historically, has always emphasized the especially luciferian nature of the jws. The Church has always singled them out.

    Not the Church in recent times.
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    Re: Christopher Lee life experience applied to LOTR
    « Reply #5 on: October 03, 2024, 02:49:25 PM »
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  • I don't know why the assumption is that this advice is due to "life experience", if by "life experience" is meant Lee's wartime activities.

    He's shown to be a fraud here, about many of his WWII claims:

    https://allthatsinteresting.com/christopher-lee-military-career

    Lots of people know that people often don't scream when they're stabbed. I thought that was common knowledge.

    Speaking of LOTR, I like this part about Tolkien:



    But Tolkien was naive about the jws, as the rest of this article demonstrates.

    --https://forward.com/culture/349108/how-jews-helped-inspire-jrr-tolkiens-the-hobbit/

    Interesting. Thanks!
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Christopher Lee life experience applied to LOTR
    « Reply #6 on: October 04, 2024, 07:54:37 AM »
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  • Our Lady of La Salette:

    "The Church will be in eclipse, the world will be in dismay."

    When traditional Catholics are fooled by jws you know these aren't good times for Catholics. Or even for non-jwish non-Catholics with two working brain cells.

    How are trad Catholics fooled by all these "notable figures" like Jordan Peterson and Tucker Carlson? How are they fooled by such obvious frauds on these forums? They don't use the jw test. That's why.

    The Church hasn't emphasized the evil of the jws, because the people running the Church are noahides. They're not really Catholic, except in a baptismal sense.

    There's no reason for the Catholic Church to exist if Catholics aren't enemies of jws. The Church, historically, has always emphasized the especially luciferian nature of the jws. The Church has always singled them out.

    Not the Church in recent times.
    Michael Hoffman argues that the Church has hardly made any reference to juice influence, since the renaissance because of a cabalist infiltration by humanists such as Marsilio Ficino, Pico dela Mirandola, Johannes Reuchlin and even Thomas More. 

    It rings true with me. Since the renaissance, whilst the Church is perfectly in assisting individuals on their paths to salvation, it has since only rarely intervened to save entire nations.




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    Re: Christopher Lee life experience applied to LOTR
    « Reply #7 on: October 04, 2024, 08:47:12 AM »
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  • Just to bring it into the present, Michael Matt declares war against the enemies of Christ the King and the Social Kingship of Jesus Christ, but refuses to name the true enemy- the jew.
    Can't win or even HAVE a war if you don't know your enemy.



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    Re: Christopher Lee life experience applied to LOTR
    « Reply #8 on: October 04, 2024, 08:56:54 AM »
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  • As far as Tolkein goes, he knew enough to create the character Gollum, the hobbit creepily transformed by greed lusting for the ring, 
    after the golem that the rabbis conjure from the earth and mud.
    There must be some understanding there.

    https://www.jmberlin.de/en/golem-from-mysticism-to-minecraft

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    Re: Christopher Lee life experience applied to LOTR
    « Reply #9 on: October 07, 2024, 08:59:45 PM »
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  • Just to bring it into the present, Michael Matt declares war against the enemies of Christ the King and the Social Kingship of Jesus Christ, but refuses to name the true enemy- the jew.
    Can't win or even HAVE a war if you don't know your enemy.



    Can't agree more! Yep. That's always the angle of the "Catholic" con-artist. Mention any group but jws, and only mention jws, if you absolutely must, to save face. But never, ever put emphasis on the jws. The Church has always put emphasis on the jws. Put emphasis on politics or fake moon landings. Anything but jws. Legions of that type exist on the Catholic forums I've visited over the past 15 years. With friends like these who needs enemies? It describes 90% or more of Catholics, Novus Ordo or not.

    A side-note about Christopher Tolkien, J.R.R.'s son, who headed the Tolkien estate:

    https://screenrant.com/christopher-tolkien-estate-hated-peter-jackson-lord-rings/

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        Christopher Tolkien had seen himself as both a curator and protector of his father's work. He gathered J.R.R. Tolkien's scattered notes, and assembled them into a (mostly) coherent narrative to help lovers of Middle-earth. He fought to ensure merchandising opportunities taken by Warner Bros. and New Line were appropriate for the franchise, and in 2012 the Tolkien Estate filed a lawsuit to block the creation of an online slot machine inspired by The Lord of the Rings. He was certainly right that his father J.R.R. Tolkien would not have been happy at this idea. He was a devout Roman Catholic from childhood, and he described The Lord of the Rings as a fundamentally religious and Catholic work. The idea of associating it with gambling would most likely have horrified J.R.R. Tolkien.

        Tolkien had sold the film rights to The Lord of the Rings back in 1969, but by the 2000s they had found their way to Warner Bros. The contracts required the studio to pay a percentage of the films' profits to the Tolkien Estate, but Warner Bros. attempted to claim no money was owed over The Lord of the Rings. As Tolkien Estate lawyer Cathleen Blackburn told Le Monde in an interview in 2012, "These hugely popular films apparently did not make any profit! We were receiving statements saying that the producers did not owe the Tolkien Estate a dime." This kind of approach was hardly conducive to a healthy relationship.

        Outside of the business world, it is clear Christopher Tolkien's problems with Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings trilogy itself ran very deeply indeed. Speaking to Le Monde back in 2012, he launched a stinging criticism of the films. "Tolkien has become a monster, devoured by his own popularity and absorbed into the absurdity of our time," he complained. "The chasm between the beauty and seriousness of the work, and what it has become, has overwhelmed me. The commercialization has reduced the aesthetic and philosophical impact of the creation to nothing. There is only one solution for me: to turn my head away... They eviscerated the book by making it an action movie for young people aged 15 to 25."

    These films are not that good. They're hokey, with a few bright moments.

    Christopher Tolkien, like his father, was not very jw-aware. IIRC J.R.R. was a member of the Monday Club in the 1960s, which was in favor of repatriating all non-whites in Britain back to their nations of origin. Yes, good idea. But the Monday Club was silent about the jws, since many of its members were/are jwish. Tolkien was also good friends with the Anglican evangelist C.S. Lewis, who married a jwess. Both Lewis and Tolkien were pro-Britain in WWII. Why side with any group in WWII? They should have stayed silent and been neutral as was the Church.



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    Re: Christopher Lee life experience applied to LOTR
    « Reply #10 on: October 07, 2024, 09:05:56 PM »
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  • Michael Hoffman argues that the Church has hardly made any reference to juice influence, since the renaissance because of a cabalist infiltration by humanists such as Marsilio Ficino, Pico dela Mirandola, Johannes Reuchlin and even Thomas More.

    It rings true with me. Since the renaissance, whilst the Church is perfectly in assisting individuals on their paths to salvation, it has since only rarely intervened to save entire nations.
    It's certainly true that a pattern has emerged in recent times of less singling out of jws and instead going after groups who would probably not even exist if not for the wizard behind the curtain. Complain about anything but the elephant in the room. You see this with the Syllabus of Errors.

    Fr. Feeney's The Point has a good article about Communism, tying the usual suspects in, but ends with a word of caution:

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    The foregoing twenty-five items are but a sampling of the irrefutable case against the Jews. But in one final matter we must caution our readers. Though the Jews are behind Communism, they are not committed to it. The cause to which they are essentially bound is not pro-Communism. It is, rather, anti-Christianity. Communism is merely their weapon of the moment.

    Therefore, it is possible that Jews will be seen opposing Communism. Should this happen, it may be that such opposition is only a diversional move, calculated to throw the Gentiles off the track. It may be, however, that the Jews will have found that Communism has lost its effectiveness, and they are dropping it in favor of some new, more useful tool. In that event, Communism would decline into being just another political-economic movement, an abandoned child obliged to fend for itself.

    As long as Communism remains an international menace, however, totally unexplainable by political or economic standards, an insidious, rapacious enemy, more terrible to the Church even than to the state, then we may be sure that the Jews are still behind the Communist movement.

    --https://fatherfeeney.wordpress.com/2009/08/22/the-point-november-1954/

    This reminds me of the jw Paul Gottfried's line, "White nationalism can be good for jws."

    Jws can make anything work in their favor, but the gentiles who fall in lockstep and follow them are being led to slaughter.
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    Re: Christopher Lee life experience applied to LOTR
    « Reply #11 on: October 08, 2024, 03:55:04 AM »
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  • It's certainly true that a pattern has emerged in recent times of less singling out of jws and instead going after groups who would probably not even exist if not for the wizard behind the curtain. Complain about anything but the elephant in the room. You see this with the Syllabus of Errors.

    Fr. Feeney's The Point has a good article about Communism, tying the usual suspects in, but ends with a word of caution:

    --https://fatherfeeney.wordpress.com/2009/08/22/the-point-november-1954/

    This reminds me of the jw Paul Gottfried's line, "White nationalism can be good for jws."

    Jws can make anything work in their favor, but the gentiles who fall in lockstep and follow them are being led to slaughter.
    Even Mgr Lefevbre, who sought out the least modernist seminary he could find, for his own education, was not very juice wise. So clearly the Church ignoring the issue goes back a very long time.  

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    Re: Christopher Lee life experience applied to LOTR
    « Reply #12 on: October 09, 2024, 06:22:47 AM »
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  • Even Mgr Lefevbre, who sought out the least modernist seminary he could find, for his own education, was not very juice wise. So clearly the Church ignoring the issue goes back a very long time. 
    Yes, and he didn't choose his bishops wisely. Even Bishop Williamson, who was the best pick, used to invite a rabbi to talk to seminarians at Winona!

    I'm even jdaized. And I'm probably less jdaized than most.

    I get a laugh when I hear people claim that they aren't jdaized. It's a cavalier boast. It's an indication that they don't know themselves well. Or they're just liars. It's comparable to some man living in Rome in 50AD and claiming that the Romans have zero influence on him.
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    Re: Christopher Lee life experience applied to LOTR
    « Reply #13 on: October 09, 2024, 09:01:35 AM »
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  • Yes, and he didn't choose his bishops wisely. Even Bishop Williamson, who was the best pick, used to invite a rabbi to talk to seminarians at Winona!

    I'm even jdaized. And I'm probably less jdaized than most.

    I get a laugh when I hear people claim that they aren't jdaized. It's a cavalier boast. It's an indication that they don't know themselves well. Or they're just liars. It's comparable to some man living in Rome in 50AD and claiming that the Romans have zero influence on him.
    The entire catholic Church has been non juice wise for hundreds of years. Even the encyclicals that condemn free masonry make zero mention of the orchestra leader that manages Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ around the world. 

    Mgr Jouin was in charge of the RISS journal (Revue International de Sociétés Sécrètes) which covered all of this useful information between 1912 and 1933. The journal had only 2000 readers, whereas it should have been sent to every seminary and priory in the world. https://shs.cairn.info/revue-bulletin-du-bibliophile-2016-1-page-131?

    Even our children should be wise to this, but our fellow catholics look at people who mention the juice as if we are martians, and this is not only a vatican 2 phenomenon. The poor Johanness Pfefferkorn, an ex juice who turned Catholic tried to warn the Church about this problem and was completely destroyed by the "catholic" humanist Johannes Reuchlin, even before the reformation  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Reuchlin




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    Re: Christopher Lee life experience applied to LOTR
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  • The entire catholic Church has been non juice wise for hundreds of years. Even the encyclicals that condemn free masonry make zero mention of the orchestra leader that manages Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ around the world.

    Mgr Jouin was in charge of the RISS journal (Revue International de Sociétés Sécrètes) which covered all of this useful information between 1912 and 1933. The journal had only 2000 readers, whereas it should have been sent to every seminary and priory in the world. https://shs.cairn.info/revue-bulletin-du-bibliophile-2016-1-page-131?

    Even our children should be wise to this, but our fellow catholics look at people who mention the juice as if we are martians, and this is not only a vatican 2 phenomenon
    . The poor Johanness Pfefferkorn, an ex juice who turned Catholic tried to warn the Church about this problem and was completely destroyed by the "catholic" humanist Johannes Reuchlin, even before the reformation  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Reuchlin
    Can't agree more. Interesting information there about Pfefferkorn. I'll have to read more about that.

    There's no reason, whatsoever, for the Catholic Church to exist if Catholics aren't enemies of tlmudists. Mine as well wrap it up and call it a day. Find some other avenue for protection from these vampires.

    Trad Caths are mostly Noahides. Anyone who's fooled by someone like ggreg, who admits to being "pro-Jєωιѕн", "70% pro-israel," "pro-feminism" and thinks the holocost happened is pretty much beyond repair without major graces. Ggreg, a former member you may not be familiar with, is probably the most popular member of SuscipeDomine and was once a very popular member here.
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