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Re: Catholics and Hitler
« Reply #195 on: September 16, 2017, 08:46:52 AM »
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  • What is wonderful is when there is a conversion. I heard of a certain Jew who was a student at a Catholci college. She took a course on the Old Testament. When she started the course she said that she said to herself, "What can these Christians teach me about the Old Testament?" By the end of the course she had learned so much and she was so impressed that she became a convert.
    If she went to a "Catholic" college, her conversion might not be genuine. That's not a dig against her at all, she may be a very pious individual. But the Faith is not there at most of those colleges.
    The second Monday of October is Columbus Day, not Indigenous People's Day. Without Columbus discovering the Indies and giving them the True Faith, they would still be cannibals worshipping the Sun.

    Santo subito!

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    « Reply #196 on: September 16, 2017, 02:07:29 PM »
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  • It is something that we have in common. We build our house of evangelization on what we have in common first.
    That is the conciliar evangelization of dialogue, true Christian evangelization is built upon the preaching the divine truth of the Gospel, and it stirs the souls of men who are of good will to acceptance and conversion by its Divine power. 


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    « Reply #197 on: September 16, 2017, 11:40:47 PM »
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  • That is the conciliar evangelization of dialogue, true Christian evangelization is built upon the preaching the divine truth of the Gospel, and it stirs the souls of men who are of good will to acceptance and conversion by its Divine power.
    IN her case she was received into the Catholic Church. That is what dialog is supposed to do, to bring others into the Catholic Faith.

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    « Reply #198 on: September 17, 2017, 07:15:59 AM »
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  • IN her case she was received into the Catholic Church. That is what dialog is supposed to do, to bring others into the Catholic Faith.
    So what did the priest tell her? "You can go to the synagogue on Saturdays but make it to your parish at least once a month!" 

    The true way would be for her to renounce all the false things of her old life and embrace Catholicism, no ifs or buts about it.
    The second Monday of October is Columbus Day, not Indigenous People's Day. Without Columbus discovering the Indies and giving them the True Faith, they would still be cannibals worshipping the Sun.

    Santo subito!

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    « Reply #199 on: September 17, 2017, 09:07:56 AM »
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  • IN her case she was received into the Catholic Church. That is what dialog is supposed to do, to bring others into the Catholic Faith.
    Isn't prayer supposed to be good too?  Wonder how many converts have been missed since Bugnini's revision of the Good Friday prayer?


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    « Reply #200 on: September 17, 2017, 03:52:16 PM »
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  • IN her case she was received into the Catholic Church. That is what dialog is supposed to do, to bring others into the Catholic Faith.
    If she was received into the conciliar church then she was not brought into the true Catholic Faith as she would have been instructed in the conciliar doctrines which are lacking essential truths and contain errors.
    No one is Catholic or saved unless the have the Faith whole and entire.

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    « Reply #201 on: September 17, 2017, 05:28:31 PM »
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  • If she was received into the conciliar church then she was not brought into the true Catholic Faith as she would have been instructed in the conciliar doctrines which are lacking essential truths and contain errors.
    No one is Catholic or saved unless the have the Faith whole and entire.
    Poche's mission here is to convert us all to conciliardom.

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    « Reply #202 on: September 17, 2017, 08:35:18 PM »
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  • If she was received into the conciliar church then she was not brought into the true Catholic Faith as she would have been instructed in the conciliar doctrines which are lacking essential truths and contain errors.
    No one is Catholic or saved unless the have the Faith whole and entire.
    It's a miracle that they let her in to the Church at all. Normally, someone would've told her to continue being a perfidious Jew and not change religion. In the eyes of most of conciliardom, all religions are true.
    The second Monday of October is Columbus Day, not Indigenous People's Day. Without Columbus discovering the Indies and giving them the True Faith, they would still be cannibals worshipping the Sun.

    Santo subito!


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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #203 on: November 13, 2017, 08:00:37 AM »
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  • Priests died just like many others. They were not systematically killed. Many in these camps died at the hands of the Allied carpet bombing that cut off food and medicine. Most that died in these camps was due to typhoid and other diseases.  
    Dachau was first presented by the Allies as a place that the Germans turned Jewish persons dead bodies skin into lampshades, boiled Jewish bodies to extract the fat to make soap, and showed shrunken heads to others as proof of German "atrocities". This has all been debunked as lies, even admitted by Jews themselves.
    Lies have been told to demonize Germans, and discourage others to rise up against the Jewish/Masonic/Marxist agenda. They have done there job, unfortunately, very well.
    You are correct, sir.  Unfortunately history is written by the victors.  So who was the real enemy of God during WW2? 

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    « Reply #204 on: November 13, 2017, 08:08:14 AM »
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  • You are correct, sir.  Unfortunately history is written by the victors.  So who was the real enemy of God during WW2?
    Quite so:
    "As the head of the Church, I cannot answer you otherwise: The Jews have not recognized Our Lord; therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish people." -Pope St. Pius X

    "No Jew adores God! Who say so?  The Son of God say so."

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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #205 on: November 13, 2017, 10:48:32 AM »
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  • You are correct, sir.  Unfortunately history is written by the victors.  So who was the real enemy of God during WW2?
    And who is it that writes, edits, and publishes our "histories"?


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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #206 on: November 13, 2017, 12:18:18 PM »
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  • You are correct, sir.  Unfortunately history is written by the victors.  So who was the real enemy of God during WW2?
    I distrust anything from history books, but there were papal encyclicals condemning the evils of the Reich government and of Communism.  So I consider those to be enemies of God during WW2.  There may be others but these ones I am sure about.
    Most sweet Jesus, whose overflowing charity for men is requited by so much forgetfulness, negligence and contempt, behold us prostrate before you, eager to repair by a special act of homage the cruel indifference and injuries to which your loving Heart is

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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #207 on: November 13, 2017, 04:38:18 PM »
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  • I distrust anything from history books, but there were papal encyclicals condemning the evils of the Reich government and of Communism.  So I consider those to be enemies of God during WW2.  There may be others but these ones I am sure about.
    I counter that Hitler was not even close to being as evil as Stalin, Roosevelt or Churchill.   Understand the effects of the Treat of Versailles and the influence of the jews and you will understand why Hitler brought Germany prosperity and certainly did not mass murder the jews. 
    Ask yourself what war in the last 500 years would be considered a just and moral war in the Catholic sense?  

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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #208 on: November 13, 2017, 11:09:11 PM »
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  • I distrust anything from history books, but there were papal encyclicals condemning the evils of the Reich government and of Communism.  So I consider those to be enemies of God during WW2.  There may be others but these ones I am sure about.
    There were two, Non Abbiamo Bisogno and Mit Brennender Sorge.
    http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_29061931_non-abbiamo-bisogno.html
    http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge.html

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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #209 on: November 13, 2017, 11:13:31 PM »
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  • I counter that Hitler was not even close to being as evil as Stalin, Roosevelt or Churchill.   Understand the effects of the Treat of Versailles and the influence of the jews and you will understand why Hitler brought Germany prosperity and certainly did not mass murder the jews.
    Ask yourself what war in the last 500 years would be considered a just and moral war in the Catholic sense?  
    It is not the prosperity that Hitler is criticized for. It is his neo-paganism, the fact that both he and Mussolini maintained a policy of gratuitous hostility toward the Catholic Church. They did not fulfill even the minimum agreements that were made when they signed the concordats with the Vatican. There is also the heretical racial policy that they promoted.    

     

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