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Re: Catholics and Hitler
« Reply #180 on: September 12, 2017, 10:16:22 PM »
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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #181 on: September 13, 2017, 08:35:15 AM »
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  • From the one who was the visible Head of the Church immediately prior to World War II (therefore unable to have been influenced by any post-war lies;

     8. Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community - however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things - whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds.

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    10. This God, this Sovereign Master, has issued commandments whose value is independent of time and space, country and race. As God's sun shines on every human face so His law knows neither privilege nor exception. Rulers and subjects, crowned and uncrowned, rich and poor are equally subject to His word. From the fullness of the Creators' right there naturally arises the fullness of His right to be obeyed by individuals and communities, whoever they are. This obedience permeates all branches of activity in which moral values claim harmony with the law of God, and pervades all integration of the ever-changing laws of man into the immutable laws of God.

    http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge.html
    He most certainly was influenced by the post War lies, the post WWI propaganda and lies that were still most loudly being disseminated before and after that war ended right up and through the second war. It never ended and what the National Socialists were doing and saying was always presented in a distorted fashion and and alway mixed will outright lies and exaggeration in the largely Jewish press and self interested western diplomats and politicians.  That is documented fact.
    You would have us believe that the pope never read the newspapers with his morning coffee and never listened to allied broadcasts on the radio, nor did any of his subordinates who assembled and authored his documents.
    Remember, it was the Church Herself who realizing the danger of corrupting the morality and Faith which the Jews were associated with, caused Her to sequester them away from Her children to protect them.
    Germany found the need to do so as did over a hundred and twenty other locals throughout history. The western world has the need to do so today, right now, but has not the power or will to do it.
    You are kicking against the goad here poche if you think that this pope was acting without considering  the public and political opinions and influences of his day.  It is nonsense to believe that because it was in evidence throughout his and Pius XII's pontificates.

    If the pope was at all educated of Rabbinic Judaism and Talmudism he would have seen clearly the most radical font of racial divinization and racial idolatry reside. Somehow that was not spoken of. One must ponder why?


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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #182 on: September 14, 2017, 03:12:27 AM »
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  • I don't know what is true in this, but I do know what can't be.

    Caveat: (Brace yourself poacher) What I have learned, much to the chagrin of who I was, is that if a Jew loves a thing, it stands a good chance of being hateful, and vice-versa.
    The Jews love the psalms and we pray the psalms in the Divine Office. Does that mean that you have the Divine Office? 

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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #183 on: September 14, 2017, 03:27:19 AM »
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  • The Jews love the psalms and we pray the psalms in the Divine Office. Does that mean that you have the Divine Office?
    In light of prior comms, including one PM, I must conclude that you do not have an excuse; you have the capacity to both read and understand what you have read.

    .^. you are of bad will, a liar specifically and a deciever generally, as your twisting of another's words in this instance yet again evidences.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #184 on: September 14, 2017, 04:19:08 AM »
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  • In light of prior comms, including one PM, I must conclude that you do not have an excuse; you have the capacity to both read and understand what you have read.

    .^. you are of bad will, a liar specifically and a deciever generally, as your twisting of another's words in this instance yet again evidences.
    How is that bad will? While I will join you in your theological criticism of the errors of the Jewish theology I think your hatred is unjust.


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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #185 on: September 14, 2017, 04:20:52 AM »
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  • How is that bad will? While I will join you in your theological criticism of the errors of the Jewish theology I think your hatred is unjust.
    "...hatred..."
    Yup. Liar. Bad willed. Twister of words.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #186 on: September 14, 2017, 08:48:22 AM »
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  • The Jews love the psalms and we pray the psalms in the Divine Office. Does that mean that you have the Divine Office?
    Is this a good example of a syllogistic fallacy, or what? Poche, you think you are a clever rascal, don't you?

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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #187 on: September 14, 2017, 09:37:40 AM »
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  • The Jews love the psalms and we pray the psalms in the Divine Office. Does that mean that you have the Divine Office?
    The Jews of today do not believe the Psalms, they believe the Rabbis, and Judaism is not a religion, it is a cult, and invention of the Rabbis which came into being after the death of the Savior.
    It is not the God given religion of the ancient Hebrews.

    And DZ is correct, the Jews have twisted the meaning of the Psalms to serve as a manifesto for a racial supremacist agenda and as an exhibition of hatred towards the non-Jew.


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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #188 on: September 14, 2017, 10:15:20 AM »
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  • The Jews love the psalms and we pray the psalms in the Divine Office. Does that mean that you have the Divine Office?
    Poche, brother, don't take this personally - but shut it.
    The second Monday of October is Columbus Day, not Indigenous People's Day. Without Columbus discovering the Indies and giving them the True Faith, they would still be cannibals worshipping the Sun.

    Santo subito!

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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #189 on: September 14, 2017, 10:40:44 PM »
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  • Is this a good example of a syllogistic fallacy, or what? Poche, you think you are a clever rascal, don't you?
    It is something that we have in common. We build our house of evangelization on what we have in common first.

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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #190 on: September 14, 2017, 10:52:32 PM »
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  • It is something that we have in common. We build our house of evangelization on what we have in common first.
    But Judaism - e.g., Rabbinic Judaism of today - came after Our Lord.

    There's elements that the Old Testament religion shares with Rabbinic Judaism like dietary laws and the Torah/Tanakh. But that's really it, all the rest came from AFTER the OT. To say that Catholicism followed Judaism would be intellectually dishonest. 

    We have nothing in common with a people that spit on us and claim we're bigoted for having faith, who at the same time spread everything contradictory to Catholic morals. We have nothing in common with the perfidious Jews. When they convert, then we will.
    The second Monday of October is Columbus Day, not Indigenous People's Day. Without Columbus discovering the Indies and giving them the True Faith, they would still be cannibals worshipping the Sun.

    Santo subito!


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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #191 on: September 15, 2017, 02:53:58 AM »
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  • It is something that we have in common. We build our house of evangelization on what we have in common first.
    Sin.

    Brilliant.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #192 on: September 15, 2017, 09:09:25 AM »
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  • It is something that we have in common. We build our house of evangelization on what we have in common first.
    Have in common?  You are delusional...

    I'll place my bet on the Good Friday prayer of the Church of 16 centuries...

    For the conversion of the perfidious Jews. Let us pray also for the Jews that the Lord our God may take the veil from their hearts and that they also may acknowledge our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Let us pray: Almighty and everlasting God, you do not refuse your mercy even to the Jews; hear the prayers which we offer for the blindness of that people so that they may acknowledge the light of your truth, which is Christ, and be delivered from their darkness.

    St Jerome doesn't think there's anything in common...

     The Jews in their synagogues blaspheme the Christian flock: and while they slay us, they will their own destruction in the eternal fire.

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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #193 on: September 15, 2017, 09:20:46 AM »
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  • Have in common?  You are delusional...

    I'll place my bet on the Good Friday prayer of the Church of 16 centuries...

    For the conversion of the perfidious Jews.
    But "perfidious"  is like something Latin for "super cool elder bro masters", or like that, right?

    I think that's what, for example, S. John Chrysostom really meant; we just need somebody important to tell us how words went backwards... sometime.

    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Catholics and Hitler
    « Reply #194 on: September 16, 2017, 02:32:52 AM »
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  • Sin.

    Brilliant.
    What is wonderful is when there is a conversion. I heard of a certain Jew who was a student at a Catholci college. She took a course on the Old Testament. When she started the course she said that she said to herself, "What can these Christians teach me about the Old Testament?" By the end of the course she had learned so much and she was so impressed that she became a convert.

     

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