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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2022, 11:53:04 AM »
So when people like this hear a priest (invalidly ordained) going on and on about demons all the time and how many people are possessed, they eat it with a big spoon.

Yes, I've always gotten the impression that Fr. Ripperger exaggerates the extent of diabolical activity, seeing nearly everything bad that happens as being the result of direct diabolical activity.  Sins and character flaws seem to him to be all caused by "generational spirits".  So if you're arrogant, it's because of a certain demon.  If you're prone to impurity or to sloth, that's caused by another set of demons.  Well, a lot of this is just due to Original Sin and the human condition.  Maybe someone is arrogant or impure or slothful ... just because they made sinful choices or some of that could be due to natural temperament, etc.  He even says that people who have "bad luck" financially are under diabolical attack.  Devils don't care about finances.  They're rather see people affluent, since as Our Lord said, it's very difficult for the wealthy to enter the Kingdom of God.  Demons don't cause sinful inclinations, as it were, against someone's will.  They can't.  They can only go so far as to try to induce people into making sinful decisions, but can't cause someone to be lustful or gluttonous or slothful.

Generally speaking, Holy Water, blessed religious articles, especially St. Benedict's medals, etc. tend to keep the demons away for the most part.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2022, 12:00:49 PM »
Obsession is indeed a traditional form of diabolical influence discussed in spiritual theology.

Nobody's denying diabolical influence or activity, just the EXTENT of it.  Traditionally, inclinations toward sinful behavior are attributed to one of THREE sources, the flesh, the devil, and the world.  It's almost as if Father Ripperger ignores the other two causes and seems to imply that it's all caused by the devil.  If someone is addicted to pornography, it's not because his great great great grandfather committed sins of impurity.


Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2022, 12:21:45 PM »
I was looking for videos one evening and come across a Fr Ripperger one on sacramentals. So I began watching others and he's an excellent catechist  imo.

I bought his book Deliverance Prayers For The Laity and begin praying the Auxilium Christian prayers. Soon after I understood why he strongly suggested one speak with a priest before praying the prayers. Demons don't like them.

I also got a copy of his latest book Dominion. It far exceeds the other books I've read on angels, demons, and spiritual warfare.

Anyhow I'm glad I found him online. As far as the details of what goes on in the room when he performs a solemn exorcism, I'm not intrigued by all of that. Everything else he presents is solid imo.

What are the general thoughts here about Fr Ripperger ? I realize he's indult but he certainly is orthodox.
Even an indult friend of mine burnt his books after consulting a more traditional priest because some of the exorcism prayers in there are NOT for laymen even if he claims so in the books. Some families encountered disturbance after reciting those.
Also, he's just popular on the internet because he gets more promotion. As for the sermons, I've heard many that are better. As for if he's validly ordained? Doubt.

Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2022, 01:45:05 PM »
I have listened to his videos and they were helpful.  

I never prayed any of those deliverance prayers.  

Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2022, 02:21:31 PM »
Nobody's denying diabolical influence or activity, just the EXTENT of it.  Traditionally, inclinations toward sinful behavior are attributed to one of THREE sources, the flesh, the devil, and the world.  It's almost as if Father Ripperger ignores the other two causes and seems to imply that it's all caused by the devil.  If someone is addicted to pornography, it's not because his great great great grandfather committed sins of impurity.

I agree with you. I was simply clarifying that "obsession" is in fact a traditional term. Someone had earlier expressed doubt that "obsession" was found in traditional, pre-VII theology. I don't know how Fr Ripperger uses it, but the term is found in most of the standard manuals of spiritual and ascetic theology, e.g. Tanquerey, Royo Marin, Poulain.

While there were many other terms to designate diabolical influence, in systematic theology as found in the early 20th century, the neoscholastics found it most useful to classify under the three broad categories I mentioned: temptations, obsession (external or internal), and possession.