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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
« Reply #65 on: September 26, 2022, 02:21:50 PM »

With N., you're supposed to specify the exact type of evil spirit you're attempting to bind.

He even has a Latin version.  Is that supposed to imply that this is some official prayer of the Church?
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That Latin sounds like something a priest would say.



What the devil are you supposed to insert for the "N."??! The name of the demon? His rank in the infernal choirs of angels? What? And how are you supposed to know any of this information? By asking the demon to show you his ID and proof of insurance?! This is not just bizarre, it's outright disturbing!

Yes, there's a list on the followig page of possible values for N. ... e.g. "spirit of fornication," "spirit of gluttony," etc.

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Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
« Reply #66 on: September 26, 2022, 02:28:42 PM »
Those types of prayers (they're more commands) above are, IMO, incredibly dangerous.  I find it perplexing that Father Ripperger emphasizes that one must have the authority of the Church to have any power over demonic spirits, and yet here he has lay people engaging, directly addressing, and commanding evil spirits "in the Name of Jesus."
Fr. Ripperger's sermons sound like a scene in a Harry Potter book. I think his popularity comes not from his adherence to tradition (since NONE of this garbage about binding demons or addressing demons in prayer can be found in ANY pre-Vatican 2 prayer book), but from a toxic combination of lurid curiosity and sensationalism, superstition of people who think everything is caused by demons, and simple vanity of people who want to believe they are undergoing some sort of external attacks from demons as the great saints were, like the Cure of Ars.

Holy Angels, I'd really like to see an example of ANY prayer written before Vatican II that addresses a demon. I highly doubt you'll be able to find one. We address ourselves to God and the blessed in prayer, not to demons, sheesh! Is this really news to you? We do not talk to demons! Period. Seriously! Do you not get this??!


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As lay people, we should simply pray to Our Lady, the Terror of Demons, and be devoted to Her Holy Rosary.  We should make use of the sacramentals provided by Holy Mother Church, the holy water, blessed articles, especially St. Beedict medals, etc.

Indeed. Why is this not good enough for Fr. Ripperger?


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But to constantly be thinking about these evils spirits, and be engaging them, and attempting to battle them directly, that's a recipe for disaster ... nor is it psychologically healthy.  It can mess with someone's peace of soul.  And we know that many things (including "hiccups") can have natural causes as well, and needn't see a demon behind every bush, and every hiccup.  We also have to admit that some of our sins are caused by the flesh, and others by the world.


I was trying to get at this in some of my posts in this earlier thread, but you have explained this better than I did. Yes, every word of this is solid. I would just add that this demon-obsessed fake spirituality of Fr. Ripperger is a novelty and is not traditional, and that should be enough for traditional Catholics to reject it outright.


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IMO, this book should be on the Index.

I wish I could give this entire post about sixteen thumbs up, but alas I could only give it one. :cowboy:


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
« Reply #67 on: September 26, 2022, 02:42:04 PM »
Fr. Ripperger's sermons sound like a scene in a Harry Potter book. I think his popularity comes not from his adherence to tradition (since NONE of this garbage about binding demons or addressing demons in prayer can be found in ANY pre-Vatican 2 prayer book), but from a toxic combination of lurid curiosity and sensationalism, superstition of people who think everything is caused by demons, and simple vanity of people who want to believe they are undergoing some sort of external attacks from demons as the great saints were, like the Cure of Ars.

I would add one other motivation, that people can somewhat offload responsibility.  Instead of having to admit, "I failed," and "I fell into the sin of lust." or "I lost my temper.", there's a subtle "a demon caused me to do it."  And perhaps not even some demon that I admitted into my life, but, rather, a demon that my great-great-grandfather inflicted on my family line.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
« Reply #68 on: September 26, 2022, 03:03:59 PM »
I truly believe that the combination of Our Blessed Mother's protection and the sacramentals of the Church, holy water, blessed salt, and St. Benedict's medals, etc. are far more powerful against demonic forces than some deliverance prayer that I utter.  If we consecrate ourselves and our families to Our Blessed Mother, she'll drive out all these demons and generational spirits, etc., much more effectively than we can through these prayers.  With the sacramentals, they work quasi-ex-opere-operato with the authority of the Church.  I am confident that holy water and blessed salt create an impervious barrier against demons, and that St. Benedict's medals do the same.  I believe that Our Blessed Mother will protect those who offer the Holy Rosary (15 decades recommended) and will not let the demons attack those who are consecrated to her.  Traditional exorcists report that they flee in terror from the presence of Our Blessed Mother.

Another thing that I find a bit strange is Fr. Ripperger's advice to pray to Our Lady of Sorrows to have her reveal to us which kind of demon is inflicting us.  Why do we need this "private revelation"?  We simply have to ask Our Lady, whatever it is, please get rid of it.  There's a bit of inordinate curiosity at work here, the same type of attitude that inspires people to dabble in the occult.  We have also spoken of before about the exorcists who interrogate demons to get details about who they are and what they're doing there, etc.  How is that really a good idea?  I thought that the interaction with demons was to be avoided.  Newsflash -- demons lie.  But there's this subtle implication, dovetailing with the "binding" prayers above, that we somehow have "more power" over these demons if we can name them.  That seems a bit superstitious to me.

Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
« Reply #69 on: September 26, 2022, 04:06:14 PM »
It doesn't matter that that the commands to the demons are "in the name of Jesus," etc.  Problem remains that lay people act as if they had the authority to exert or invoke that authority.  It is the layman delivering this "Adjuration" that is exerting the power, made clear by the first person there, "I bind ...", "I cast out ...", "I command ...".
It's a major problem if the person saying the prayer believes he/she has power over demons. Even Exorcists don't claim power over demons. The only person that walked this earth with such power is Our Lady, besides Our Lord. 

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